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 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:37 am Post subject: Un-Brag: ie why me? |
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It appears that I am stuck in- well it's not 3rd, and it's not 5th, it is somewhere in between. Probably forever (unless someone catches me from behind). There is no way my little AMD farm is going to catch John Galt 007's Intel farm, and it will take years to catch up to TezzerH or Migratory Coconuts. On the up-side, no one else has to worry about getting stuck in 3<x<5 for a while (Unless AlDente fires things up and passes me).
Unless someone wants to buy me one of these:http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13046_na/13046_na.html.
It is only $54,000 the way I want it setup (8 quad cores).
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Sir Papa Smurph
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: |
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Yes, I have looked at the stats, and indeed you are not there...
I must commend you on your contributions to the Team and I stand in awe of your substantial gardening abilities, However, I simply cannot sympathize with your plight.
I have been stuck in 37 forever and while my prospects for movement are greater than yours this still sucks.
Additionally I was thinking of starting a thread to alternately Congratulate and then Taunt Sir Mohr as he bounces into and then out of the top 100 but we already have a thread named "The Never Ending Thread". 
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Al Dente
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: Re: Un-Brag: ie why me? |
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I had in mind something more along the lines of this:
| Code: | UnitedKingdom (Created with HP BladeSystem Sizer v3.4.1 on Sunday, 26th October, 2008)
Qty Description Each Total
Enclosure 1 [c-Class]
16 BL2x220cG5 TWO L5420 2.5Ghz 4GB(2 * 2GB) Quad Core £3,545 £56,720
6 HP Active Cool Fan Option Kit £85 £510
1 HP c7000 Single-Phase Enclosure with 2 Power Supplies
and 4 Fans with 16 Insight Control Licenses £6,245 £6,245
2 HP BLc 1Gb Virtual Connect Enet Opt Kit £3,209 £6,418
32 4 GB FBD PC2-5300 2 x 2 GB LP Kit £149 £4,768
Total Price £74,661
Enclosure 2 [c-Class]
16 BL2x220cG5 TWO L5420 2.5Ghz 4GB(2 * 2GB) Quad Core £3,545 £56,720
6 HP Active Cool Fan Option Kit £85 £510
1 HP c7000 Single-Phase Enclosure with 2 Power Supplies
and 4 Fans with 16 Insight Control Licenses £6,245 £6,245
2 HP BLc 1Gb Virtual Connect Enet Opt Kit £3,209 £6,418
32 4 GB FBD PC2-5300 2 x 2 GB LP Kit £149 £4,768
Total Price £74,661
Enclosure 3 [c-Class]
16 BL2x220cG5 TWO L5420 2.5Ghz 4GB(2 * 2GB) Quad Core £3,545 £56,720
6 HP Active Cool Fan Option Kit £85 £510
1 HP c7000 Single-Phase Enclosure with 2 Power Supplies
and 4 Fans with 16 Insight Control Licenses £6,245 £6,245
2 HP BLc 1Gb Virtual Connect Enet Opt Kit £3,209 £6,418
32 4 GB FBD PC2-5300 2 x 2 GB LP Kit £149 £4,768
Total Price £74,661
Enclosure 4 [c-Class]
16 BL2x220cG5 TWO L5420 2.5Ghz 4GB(2 * 2GB) Quad Core £3,545 £56,720
6 HP Active Cool Fan Option Kit £85 £510
1 HP c7000 Single-Phase Enclosure with 2 Power Supplies
and 4 Fans with 16 Insight Control Licenses £6,245 £6,245
2 HP BLc 1Gb Virtual Connect Enet Opt Kit £3,209 £6,418
32 4 GB FBD PC2-5300 2 x 2 GB LP Kit £149 £4,768
Total Price £74,661
Other Components [c-Class]
4 HP c7000 Enclosure Power Supply Option Kit £145 £580
1 HP Universal Rack 10642 G2 Pallet Rack £699 £699
Total Price £1,279
Consolidated BOM
64 BL2x220cG5 TWO L5420 2.5Ghz 4GB(2 * 2GB) Quad Core £3,545 £226,880
24 HP Active Cool Fan Option Kit £85 £2,040
4 HP c7000 Enclosure Power Supply Option Kit £145 £580
4 HP c7000 Single-Phase Enclosure with 2 Power Supplies
and 4 Fans with 16 Insight Control Licenses £6,245 £24,980
8 HP BLc 1Gb Virtual Connect Enet Opt Kit £3,209 £25,672
128 4 GB FBD PC2-5300 2 x 2 GB LP Kit £149 £19,072
1 HP Universal Rack 10642 G2 Pallet Rack £699 £699
1 HP Thermal Quick Assessment for HP BladeSystem £6,553 £6,553
Total Price £306,476
approx. $490,362
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4 x 16 x 2 x 4 = 512 2.5GHz Xeon cores; RAC 250,000 - 500,000?, say 125 million/year
Power consumption (runing 100%) ~ 25kW (at current prices ~ £175/day, £5,250/month, £63,000/year!!!)
Now, where did I hide that winning lottery ticket? I'll take two.
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Al Dente
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Having just re-read that, I realised I could build 128 Quad-core desktops for well under £50,000, and they'd only consume ~ 15kW.
Blade systems aren't very good value, are they?
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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But have you factored in cooling costs and floorspace? That many desktops is going to take HUGE amounts of space when compared to a bunch of blade servers. I suppose if you placed a series of desktops side by side and end to end with enough room for cooling air and cables you could make a false floor over them and make everyone guess why your floor is so noisy.
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ohiomike
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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Despite me whining, I did just realize that I did sneak into the top 400 in the
world.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: Un-Brag: ie why me? |
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| Al Dente wrote: |
Now, where did I hide that winning lottery ticket? I'll take two.
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You used it to write a grocery list for your wife- I hate it when that happens! 
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Al Dente
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Heartiest congratulations on the Top 400.
I'm only 50 behind you, but it's painfully slow going, so I know only too well how much effort that takes.
Al
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| Sir Papa Smurph wrote: | | Additionally I was thinking of starting a thread to alternately Congratulate and then Taunt Sir Mohr as he bounces into and then out of the top 100 but we already have a thread named "The Never Ending Thread". |
Yes I feel like I am on a bungie cord. In the top 100, out of the top 100. For the next couple of months it should be mostly stable.
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Yankton
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| Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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World Community Grid in BOINC has KWSN's worst standing in team ranking (going by AD's stats). There are some worse standings in the non-boinc projects but I don't know much about them. As long as you pick another type of shrubbery and arrange the two shrubberies so that they get a two-level effect with a little path running down the middle, it's all good!
OR you could arrange all the projects on a wall and throw a dart randomly at the wall. That would be the most scientific method of choosing.
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We could use some milkyway help
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KWSN - Sir Brian C.......
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@all: Any place else I can help out??
Cheers to all, and I will try not to do any drive by s anymore... |
Sir John... where you can help the team is in the DC Vault... which is a DC cross project (not just boinc) scoring system... if you want just boinc projects... either poem@home or yoyo@home could help as we have lot of places to gain on either project, and each place gives a lot of vault points..
if you're looking at non boinc projects either D2OL or Wieferich give good scores... but D2ol has lots of places to KWSN to gain over other teams...
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... and now that the DC-Vault has added some projects recently, Docking, NQueens and SHA-1 are all ripe for some gains.
and don't worry too much about blowing past me in 3x - after Ramsey died, it's the current credit ho's paradise, so I'd have been surprised/disappointed if no-one had taken up the challenge
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:25 am Post subject: |
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| KWSN - Sir Brian C....... wrote: | | John Galt 007 wrote: |
@all: Any place else I can help out??
Cheers to all, and I will try not to do any drive by s anymore... |
Sir John... where you can help the team is in the DC Vault... which is a DC cross project (not just boinc) scoring system... if you want just boinc projects... either poem@home or yoyo@home could help as we have lot of places to gain on either project, and each place gives a lot of vault points..
if you're looking at non boinc projects either D2OL or Wieferich give good scores... but D2ol has lots of places to KWSN to gain over other teams...
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What about Formula BOINC standings? That is what I have been basing my credit whoriness on.
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| John Galt 007 wrote: | Ohh...THAT'S why my ears were burning...
Sorry to pass you guys up, but had to do it...
@Al Dente: I guess I should have waved at you when I blew past at 3x+1. Going to someplace around 1 million plus and going to switch to something else.
@all: Any place else I can help out??
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Ni Sir J 007 !!
Sir Toothy has been very busy elsewhere promoting KWSN  , as has Sir Wrong Film and others . Neither of them now wish to promote their own scores , just KWSN (Hey either of them can both BLOW me out'a the water anytime they choose !! [ and you - sorry  ]) .
If you wish to promote KWSN with your "HorsePower" , look to the Bible of Stats (DC Vault) and choosey where to pump . If you look at the number of teams contributing to a project - you will get an idea of how difficult the Non Boinc projects are - hence the points/place availiable there . Boinc is easy .
This post sounds confrontational --- Sir J 007 , it is not , just think about where you can help KWSN please .
Best Regds Grizzly-Duh .
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| John Galt 007 wrote: | | How does yoyo pay? About the same as SETI, 3x+1, etc. ?? |
Nope , YoYo is about 320 times more than Seti in the Vault/place/points (and RAC) . Others are much better by a factor of > 20 over that (Non Boinc projects though - very hard on computers too - gotta have some very stable quick ones ) .
Best Boinc points/place are the new projects recently placed in the Vault .
Regds Grizz .
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| Grizzly wrote: | | John Galt 007 wrote: | | How does yoyo pay? About the same as SETI, 3x+1, etc. ?? |
Nope , YoYo is about 320 times more than Seti in the Vault/place/points (and RAC) . Others are much better by a factor of > 20 over that (Non Boinc projects though - very hard on computers too - gotta have some very stable quick ones ) .
Best Boinc points/place are the new projects recently placed in the Vault .
Regds Grizz . |
Well, since my quads are OCed, don't want to stress them any more than I have to. I guess I will give yoyo a try for a while....
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