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williamd007 · Knight Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 36 Location: NJ

Well if you didn't know already, Seti is down. A day or so, if we are lucky.

sir spuddly buddly · Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 11:41 pm Post subject:

The Potm curse strikes again!

#ni-1

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JumpinJohnny · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 10:55 pm Post subject:

I don't understand split cpid... Embarassed

how does it happen?
how does a person fix it?
how can you tell if it has happened to another?

I have asked two or more people to join Wow Challenge under SETI numbers that were wrong.
How can this be avoided in the future?

Inquiring Minds.....

sir spuddly buddly · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:51 pm Post subject:

From http://boincstats.com/en/page/faq#14
Why do I have duplicate/split accounts in the BOINC combined stats?

The cause of this is the CPID, Cross Project IDentifier. Every project assigns a new user a CPID. It is partly based on the email address you used to sign up, the other part is random.

The CPID is used by BOINCstats to identify a user across projects.

Whenever you sign up with a new project, you'll get a new account on BOINCstats because the CPID is new.

What to do to make sure you'll end up with one BOINCstats account:
•Use the exact same email address for every project.

•Run at least one system with all projects, or one system with project A and B, and one system with project B and C. If there is a project that runs isolated from the other projects, its CPID with never line up.

When you join a new project, this project assigns you a new CPID. This CPID can either change to the same CPID as the other projects, or the other projects change (one by one) to the new CPID.

It is impossible for me to manually edit your accounts to create one account. It would take to much time too do this for everyone. Just wait a while, and your accounts will line up automatically.

One last thing, which is not too important, but nice for the stats: use the same username across projects, otherwise you get a username like 'Al Bundy @ SAH / Al Bundy @ Predictor / A. Bundy @ CPDN'.
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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 1:38 am Post subject:

As part of that excellent explanation from sir spuddly buddly, there is somewhat an easy fix.

Run WUProp on all systems, then whatever else on others. This NCI (non-CPU-intensive) project runs without needing a core for itself, gives you badges if enough work is done, and makes a great catalyst for making sure your CPID stays lined up. It will not matter what other projects you run, because that one project will push data across to others via your machines as you send requests to other projects.

Simple, easy, no worry about a core being eaten and nothing else to have to think about.

JumpinJohnny · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:58 am Post subject:

OK Thanks,
Some of that I knew,, all is good info.
The running of WUProp sounds like it might be usable to even out the numbers in a split CPID ... in the long run.
I guess perhaps I am mixing the term "CPID" with "User Id" that results in a split cpid??

The problem I am seeing is with the use of a user ID to register for a contest like the SETI Wow!, how do you pick which ID to use?
We lost a HUGE ammount of points this year to the split IDs.
It must be totally disheartening for the users to Register for a contest then have only a small portion of their work being reported.

Further, it seems there is only a very long term "fix" that would merge split CPID if ALL projects run before a split could be shrubbed on any newly assigned number???
Embarassed

Perhaps I cannot ask the question correctly or the answer is beyond my understanding. The issue I am probably referring to is a CPID split created by seperate Project User ID's.

Thanks for the input and explanations. #ni-2

branjo · Prince Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 746 Location: Slovakia

You know what is strange? williamd007 is posting only a few hundred credits a day in WOW ( http://www.seti-germany.de/Wow/stats_user.php?userid=9106928&year=&lang=en ), but over 70 000 credits a day according to BOINCstats http://boincstats.com/en/stats/0/user/detail/10089981/lastDays Shocked

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Blurf · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:52 am Post subject:

Confront them with it.
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JumpinJohnny · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:40 am Post subject:

branjo · Prince Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 746 Location: Slovakia

IDK. He may join again with his second CPID cae6fe8722f6b53cf5051ff9470e64db question

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JumpinJohnny · Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:16 am Post subject:

williamd007 · Knight Joined: 13 Dec 2010 Posts: 36 Location: NJ

Yes I rejoined with the other ID number and ended up coming in 10th place on our team. I am not sure how this happened either but will try to remember this for next year. Thank you to Jumping Johnny for pointing this out to me or I would have not known. PS I usually come in 4th or 5th on our team for this so yes...lots of lost credits for me over this.

JumpinJohnny · Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:53 pm Post subject:

Fighting back up to 10th Team position was admirable, considering you did it with one hand tied behind your back.
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