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Yankton
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I will write a check tonight and drop it in the mail tomorrow. I just leave a note in with it for the T-shirt?
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branjo
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ...In addition, for every $100 donated before August 15, 2014, we will send a free T-shirt, designed by our team members, that says “I support MilkyWay@home” to any address in the United States. [i]For international addresses an additional $100 donation per address is required (sorry, the cost of international postage is very high). For example, two T-shirts mailed to the same international address requires a $300 donation... |
Well, I am sure it is. As well as donation from international credit/debit cards (approaching Zero Euros for me).
What they are talking about? From which galaxy they are? 100 USD shipping cost per 1 bloody T-shirt? Do they think "international" means "Terminus-on-the-other-side-of-Milky-Way"?
Quite often I am receiving PURCHASED items from the USA worth tens od USD with free shipping.
Never mind. I finished with this amateurs regardless they fund they operation or not. Maybe it is one of their goals - to reduce the number of crunchers working FREE OF CHARGE for them.
Semi-literate idiots 
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JumpinJohnny
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| branjo wrote: | | Quote: | | ...In addition, for every $100 donated before August 15, 2014, we will send a free T-shirt, designed by our team members, that says “I support MilkyWay@home” to any address in the United States. [i]For international addresses an additional $100 donation per address is required (sorry, the cost of international postage is very high). For example, two T-shirts mailed to the same international address requires a $300 donation... |
Well, I am sure it is. As well as donation from international credit/debit cards (approaching Zero Euros for me).
What they are talking about? From which galaxy they are? 100 USD shipping cost per 1 bloody T-shirt? Do they think "international" means "Terminus-on-the-other-side-of-Milky-Way"?
Quite often I am receiving PURCHASED items from the USA worth tens od USD with free shipping.
Never mind. I finished with this amateurs regardless they fund they operation or not. Maybe it is one of their goals - to reduce the number of crunchers working FREE OF CHARGE for them.
Semi-literate idiots |
I think perhaps they are all "educrates" and academic fools. Sometimes those stuck too long in that world, or never exposed to the Real world, have no idea how it all actually works. I hope some of them get a chance to work a bit outside of Academia before they decide they know it all or that THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO LEARN. Their problem is not that they are "semi-literate idiots" but that they are "literate idiots".
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Blurf
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| Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| JumpinJohnny wrote: | | branjo wrote: | | Quote: | | ...In addition, for every $100 donated before August 15, 2014, we will send a free T-shirt, designed by our team members, that says “I support MilkyWay@home” to any address in the United States. [i]For international addresses an additional $100 donation per address is required (sorry, the cost of international postage is very high). For example, two T-shirts mailed to the same international address requires a $300 donation... |
Well, I am sure it is. As well as donation from international credit/debit cards (approaching Zero Euros for me).
What they are talking about? From which galaxy they are? 100 USD shipping cost per 1 bloody T-shirt? Do they think "international" means "Terminus-on-the-other-side-of-Milky-Way"?
Quite often I am receiving PURCHASED items from the USA worth tens od USD with free shipping.
Never mind. I finished with this amateurs regardless they fund they operation or not. Maybe it is one of their goals - to reduce the number of crunchers working FREE OF CHARGE for them.
Semi-literate idiots |
I think perhaps they are all "educrates" and academic fools. Sometimes those stuck too long in that world, or never exposed to the Real world, have no idea how it all actually works. I hope some of them get a chance to work a bit outside of Academia before they decide they know it all or that THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO LEARN. Their problem is not that they are "semi-literate idiots" but that they are "literate idiots".
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Crude comments are unnecessary....if you don't agree with it- fine, email the address on the fundraising website and say so. While I had no involvement in the $100/t-shirt idea, I don't think calling these folks (a few of who have become personal friends of mine) a fool is nice.
I will also pass the concern on myself.
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JumpinJohnny
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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| JumpinJohnny wrote: | | branjo wrote: | | Quote: | | ...For international addresses an additional $100 donation per address is required (sorry, the cost of international postage is very high). For example, two T-shirts mailed to the same international address requires a $300 donation... |
...What they are talking about? From which galaxy they are? 100 USD shipping cost per 1 bloody T-shirt? Do they think "international" means "Terminus-on-the-other-side-of-Milky-Way"?
Quite often I am receiving PURCHASED items from the USA worth tens od USD with free shipping.....
Semi-literate idiots |
I think perhaps they are all "educrates" and academic fools. Sometimes those stuck too long in that world, or never exposed to the Real world, have no idea how it all actually works. I hope some of them get a chance to work a bit outside of Academia before they decide they know it all or that THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO LEARN. Their problem is not that they are "semi-literate idiots" but that they are "literate idiots".
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| Blurf wrote: | Crude comments are unnecessary....if you don't agree with it- fine, email the address on the fundraising website and say so. While I had no involvement in the $100/t-shirt idea, I don't think calling these folks (a few of who have become personal friends of mine) a fool is nice.
I will also pass the concern on myself. |
Yes, Blurf, it seems that my point went way beyond what could be accepted by those of a similar mindset.
1. You completely misunderstood branjo's point that the way they worded their request was to suggest that international shipping costs for small items were so absorbent as to require an extra $100 to cover; he was not criticizing "the $100/t-shirt idea" to raise operating funds.
2. You mistook my admonishment to branjo for calling them semi-literate and offering a truthful explanation as to where their thinking originated, as simply a chance to use the word "fool".
3. My point is that a fish in a bowl has a warped view of reality. Academics and those dependent on gifts, grants and donations for their existence have little or no concept of how the rest of the world must operate and become insensitive to the social and economic rules we are constrained by. While admittedly "crude", our use of the terms "Idiot" and "Fool" were born of frustration with the OBVIOUS disconnect with otherwise intelligent fellow humans.
'nuff said by me.
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Blurf
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Blurf, it seems that my point went way beyond what could be accepted by those of a similar mindset.
1. You completely misunderstood branjo's point that the way they worded their request was to suggest that international shipping costs for small items were so absorbent as to require an extra $100 to cover; he was not criticizing "the $100/t-shirt idea" to raise operating funds.
2. You mistook my admonishment to branjo for calling them semi-literate and offering a truthful explanation as to where their thinking originated, as simply a chance to use the word "fool".
3. My point is that a fish in a bowl has a warped view of reality. Academics and those dependent on gifts, grants and donations for their existence have little or no concept of how the rest of the world must operate and become insensitive to the social and economic rules we are constrained by. While admittedly "crude", our use of the terms "Idiot" and "Fool" were born of frustration with the OBVIOUS disconnect with otherwise intelligent fellow humans. 'nuff said by me. |
I've invited Dr Newberg to participate here and read your thoughts and let her speak for herself.
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Pooh Bear 27
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I do have a small bit of knowledge and do understand where MW is coming from. Since the school is hosted in the US, there are some tax advantages by taking valid US donations. Taking donations from other countries will most likely not have that advantage. There may be processing fees that the school itself might need to recoup from the foreign donation. So the cost to ship the item being $100 extra for those transactions is covering their backside in case of some of those issues.
If you see, they are not charging $200 each shirt, the $100 fee for the foreign transaction is once, then each extra $100 would get another shirt.
I know, it still does not mean it costs that much more, but considering that this is a fundraiser and not a sale of shirts, the school is trying it's best to do things with simple even numbers. |
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branjo
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| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Well, if it is true, they can just state they will accept donations from US citizens only and not try to make fools from us, non-USA potential donators.
A sophomore marketing student would be better choice for them than a few graduated AP ones IMHO. They need to learn to talk to their co-workers? partners? donators? crunchers? rest-of-the-world?
JJ got it right. Intelligence Q is the one thing, but Emotional Q and Adaptability Q are much more important in common, everyday communication between people on all levels of communication. You can have high IQ, but w/o high EQ and AQ you are lost. Exactly as the people (not only) in MW are.
I may overreacted in my first post, but I still stand behind it. The projects either need us, or not. It is only up to them how will they treat us, but they have to accept all consequences of their behaviour.
Cheers 
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