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How can I use my new (old really) servers for BOINC?

 
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 10:06 am    Post subject: How can I use my new (old really) servers for BOINC? Reply with quote

I just became the owner of 8 Dell XEON servers.
Five DELL Poweredge 860's
Two Dell Poweredge 2600's
One DEll CS24-SC

All are using MS Windows Server 2003. How can I use these machines to crunch using BOINC/ The BOINC download site does not specificly show a version for MS Server. Is there a way to use them? I guess I should have posted this before I bought them:-s Thanks in advance for any, and all help from the KWSN gang. Regards, Rick
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My PowerEdge (2950, Dual Xeons @ 3GHz) came with Server 2008
I have never installed the S/W, so can't be much help there
As for use, it was simple I just added BOINC like any other PC
You'll probably use Windows 64-bit 'XP/Vista/7/8' v7.0.64 (Recommended version)
To confirm you're 64-Bit, you might need this info:
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Windows Server 2003
If you have Windows Server 2003, there are two methods to determine whether you are running a 32-bit version or a 64-bit version. If one method does not work, try the other method.
Method 1: View System Properties in Control Panel

Click Start, and then click Run.
Type sysdm.cpl, and then click OK.
Click the General tab. The operating system is displayed as follows:
For a 64-bit version operating system, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise x64 Edition appears under System.
For a 32-bit version operating system, Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition appears under System.

Method 2: View the System Information window

Click Start, and then click Run.
Type winmsd.exe, and then click OK.
When System Summary is selected in the navigation pane, locate Processor under Item in the details pane. Note the value.
If the value that corresponds to Processor starts with x86, the computer is running a 32-bit version of Windows.
If the value that corresponds to Processor starts with EM64T or IA-64, the computer is running a 64-bit version of Windows.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they are set up as domain controllers (if they are small business server 2003s then they are domain controllers) you may have conflicts when installing boinc. Boinc on a domain controller isn't supported. Small business server 2003 see

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=4556

If they are domain controllers you can try this:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r27926916-Manual-Installation-of-BOINC-on-Windows-Server

and this

http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/forum_thread.php?id=455&nowrap=true#7187

If you aren't using the server function and you have the discs and license keys in case you want to reinstall later it may be a lot easier to just wipe them and install linux instead.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2013 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Linux linux linux.
It's what i do with all mine.
Ubuntu is nice and easy.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:24 pm    Post subject: Server Help #2 Reply with quote

Yankton wrote:
If they are set up as domain controllers (if they are small business server 2003s then they are domain controllers) you may have conflicts when installing boinc. Boinc on a domain controller isn't supported. Small business server 2003 see

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/dev/forum_thread.php?id=4556

If they are domain controllers you can try this:

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/r27926916-Manual-Installation-of-BOINC-on-Windows-Server

and this

http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/forum_thread.php?id=455&nowrap=true#7187

If you aren't using the server function and you have the discs and license keys in case you want to reinstall later it may be a lot easier to just wipe them and install linux instead.

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Thanks for the reply, Yankton. After 2 weeks, I've only gotten one of these servers to work, and have BOINC running successfully. The hangup isn't BOINC, it's the re-installing Windows Server 2003. I'm willing to give up on Windows Server, if someone can point me to where I can get a copy of Linus, and give me a few hints on how to install it. I may be old, but I'm willing to try to learn new stuff in the name of science. Hope there's someone out there willing to help. Thanks in advance, Rick
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dow wrote:
Linux linux linux.
It's what i do with all mine.
Ubuntu is nice and easy.


Thanks for the posting Dow. Can I install the desktop version of Ubuntu, or do I need to install the Server version? I'm only using these for BOINC. Thanks in Advance, Rick
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you go linux, the desktop version should be fine. Ubuntu has a lot of stuff you don't need for just boinc. You could go with something smaller such as Fedora or Mint. I'm currently setting up a new shrubber with mint right now (just built it today). You can download the dvd image at http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php. Try the xfce version based on whether your machines are 32 or 64 bit machines. Just burn it to dvd on whatever machine you use for a desktop and have some fun!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yankton wrote:
If you go linux, the desktop version should be fine. Ubuntu has a lot of stuff you don't need for just boinc. You could go with something smaller such as Fedora or Mint. I'm currently setting up a new shrubber with mint right now (just built it today). You can download the dvd image at http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php. Try the xfce version based on whether your machines are 32 or 64 bit machines. Just burn it to dvd on whatever machine you use for a desktop and have some fun!


Yankton, I can't thank you enough you are my hero. Your link to LinuxMint was just what I needed. I found the Op System to be easy to use, and BOINC easy to set up. I've got LinuxMint set up on 5 servers, and got so enthusiastic, I ordered 2 more servers. Thanks again for your help, Yankton. Regards, Rick
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what are you using your army of shruberries to shrub? Any particular project(s)?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are most welcome sir. Happy Shrubbing!

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plomos wrote:
So what are you using your army of shruberries to shrub? Any particular project(s)?


Hi, Plomos,
I'm using the servers to shrub the projects that don't use GPU's: World Community Grid, Asteroids, Rosetta, Yoyo, and Simap. It's funny how I've morphed towards projects. I'm an original seti@home clasic user, and didn't think I'd ever shrub anything else. But then seti was down for a while and my computer was starving, so I started shrubbing Einstein to keep the cpu busy. Then shredding via GPU became available and I added GPUGRID. Now I'm up to 11 different projects, with an additional two having been retired (like me). Still using my Baby PC (a Sony Vaio, Pentium mmx 263 MHz with 128MB RAM) to shrub Quakecatcher, seti, and Simap. My laptops & tablet for the same projects as my severs, and the Desktops with GPU's for GPUGRID, Milkyway, Einstein, Seti, and Seti Beta. Not sure if those are the best projects, but they're the current choices. Glad to be able to contribute to the world's science, and to The Knights Who Say NI! Regards, Rick
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool man. I originally started with just a few projects and have evolved since then. Found POEM lets me grab a ton of points for the time spent. Also I like badges badges badges. WUprop has badges, did i mention badges yet? POGS and PG too. Almost to my next PG one. Anyways good to have you with us mate
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I at one time had access to several old servers like Sir Plomos does. I was going to build an army of them, but then saw the amount of electric those old servers take. Not as efficient as newer boxes and I had to cut back. I donated the hardware to needy families at the time, which in turn gave me a very nice tax break and a good little savings on my electric bill.

I try and maintain about 5 "newer" style machines, although I do have one Core 2 Quad left. It has been reliable but is next for replacement unless one of the current boxes dies first then it gets replaced. I have suspect that the box I use for daily computing may go first. It has signs. I should work on having a good current backup on it. I had been reliably backing it up, but then something else blew up and I got behind / left it sit.

Good luck with those new shrubbers. Try and find good projects that loves those older boxes. It should not be hard.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm doing the same things. Pausing for the moment as I'm going to build a new unraid server. Been studying the dual lga 2011 server boards but nothing jumps out as solid. May go with a single 2011 server board and a nice hex core for it. Then I have a couple more machines to upgrade and I'll be good for a while.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not have an army of servers, sir Rick does. I have a single shrubber with a 3rd gen i3 in it and my galaxy s4
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