KWSN Orbiting Fortress

stooper101 · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject:

I noticed mine getting errors too. I added to a thread on their board with no response yet. Also noticed Plomos and HoC were getting stuck WUs, don't kow if this is all related yet.

I've backed off the project for a couple days to avoid the errors. I'll jump in again in a bit to see if things get better.
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KWSN-HoC · Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:36 am Post subject:

Looking at my posts there I see that Nico might have found one issue and is working at another one causing this stucked WU's.

I'm still crunching as Spinhenge is off until next year and these stuck WU's will get credits as well if they are aborted.

Cheers

HoC
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stooper101 · Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:00 pm Post subject:

I figured out my problem with the lack of Java. Since I knew I already had Java, I just needed boinc to be able to find it. I had to set the variable path manually. Had to stumble through and figure that out, but I think I got it now. I posted my findings at the dDM boards.
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Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

Once I got the 32-bit version (would be nice if this project coulda used 64-bit java, but whatever) it didn't seem to error. Main things I've run into is:

- sometimes the project server isn't responding, and at those times the website seems down also. All other sites, not a problem. It's sporadic, though usually had cleared up within an hour or so; then there's some timeout delays uploading (if there was an outage as appears, imagine everyone's BOINC is hammering their servers)

- The 30 WU limit doesn't provide me a full day, and as I don't have 24/7 internet access on this comp, many times by the time I wake up for work or what have you, it's down to the last 1 or 2 WUs to process (it's a duel core CPU, so the 30 WU limit is worse, as it's only 15 per core), and it's 8-12 hours before the comp will be back online. Each WU is only about 30, 32, about there minues processing time, so x 15 is only about 7.5 hours of work. This computer is without access to the internet more then 2x that.

Well the next 5 or so days will be an exception, so it'll have better turn around, for a few days here.
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Plomos · Prince Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Posts: 859

I got credit for that stuck WU and ever since he updated the application i've had no problems with it
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stooper101 · Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 10:34 pm Post subject:

Good to hear the stuck WU problems are coming around. And I have also noticed the down time of the servers. That gets pretty annoying at times, but it usually hasn't bothered my particular set-up. I can see how it would be very bothersome if you are not online for large portions of the day.

Other than that, we are within about 19 days of becoming #1. Keep up the good work everybody! #ni-1

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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:12 am Post subject:

Now that the Primegrid has almost finished as my machines report they will start doing DDM again. I am sticking here hoping we make #1 even if it goes into next month. If I see I am the only one left and no one else is helping, I will go back to my original goals.

PhastPhred · Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:51 am Post subject:

Mine are ready to start too, Pooh! Hang in there! Almost done here...
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Plomos · Prince Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Posts: 859

Home for the holiday this week so I am running dDM on my faster comp. Should help
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LanDroid · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:32 am Post subject:

Production back to over 6 figures daily... 1,336,499 points behind...

'Stoneage:
DoW 2,000,000
Yankton passes 250,000
Housekeeper of Camelot passed 200,000
KWSN Grizzly 60,000
Nuadormrac passed 8,000

Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:44 am Post subject:

I know someone was having problem with their Windows machine not being able to crunch DDM, and I have been able to crunch DDM on all my machines until recently. Because I "help" people with their computer I updated one of mine to IE9. This machine is now unable to run DDM. I am going to back out the IE9 and verify for sure, but something in IE9 breaks the way DDM works.

I suspect this is the same issue others complained about.

I will repost after the downgrade and let you know for sure.

Downgrade did not help itself. I do see what IE9 did and it removed almost all of Java's paths. I am trying to get it back, but one of my machines is unable to crunch DDM for now so it's on my other goal until I get it fixed.

Whomever else had this issue, can you post exactly what you changed? I may find it before I see that, but I'd love to have it written out neatly for others.

Plomos · Prince Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Posts: 859

Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject:

The Knighty NI · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:11 pm Post subject:

My issue with the dDM project is related to JAVA. I don't run IE on my machines.

Going to examine your info about:

KWSN-HoC · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 4:35 pm Post subject:

All my machines have IE9 and running DDM with different results so IE9 shouldn't be a prob: for example one Server 2008R2 stuck almost all WU's another one runs fine .... the 6 core Phenom which first had the most stuck WU's runs actually with almost no stuck WU.

As I see from my Win7/Win2008R2 machines (the XP x86 ones didn't ever had a stuck WU) there are 2 Servers, one with no stuck WU (Quad Core Q6600, 4GB RAM, on a Dell OptiPlex 755 MT) the other a Core2 E6850, 4GB RAM, on a Dell OptiPlex 755 SF) stuck almost every WU.

The Windows 7 x64 machines first a Phenom x4 9850 BE, 8 GB, self assembled machine, no stuck WU's, the second a Phenom II x6 1090T, 8GB also self assembled machine, first lots of stuck WU's now no stuck WU since almost 24 hours.

All the stuck WU's began in my case with the 1.33 app, didn't saw that with the 1.30 app before.

As Nico from DDM mentioned this is nothing JAVA related and is classified as bug in the app itself. Version 1.33 should help to fix the issues as more logs are availible since its release, so we probably just have to wait for a fix and a new app release.

As long as credits are given for the stuck WU's I'm fine with that and keep aborting the related WU if I find them on the 4 affected machines.

Cheers

HoC

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Idan · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:59 pm Post subject:

All the DDM WUs I'm getting ends up a few seconds afterwards with "computation error", I think it only started today for some reason.

Does anyone else get the same results?

edit: never mind, they said in the forums that the new java version installs itself in a different location so I just included the java.exe dir in the %PATH% environment variable and everything's peachy! #ni-1

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Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

I've got IE 9 on Windows 7 professional x64; both javas are installed, and DDM runs without error. In the past I had had the occassional stuck WU which I aborted after a long arse time; but haven't seen any of those of late.

The main problem I do have, is the 30 WU download limit is too restrictive for a dual core CPU, given the WUs only take about 1/2 hour to crunch. Fine for peeps on the internet all the time, but computers that can be off it for 20 or so hours at a time, this is a problem as that's only 7.5 or so hours of crunch time. It also means that 2/3 of the time the CPU sits there with nothing to crunch wrt the POTM. It's plugged in at someone elses house atm, but will have to probably get a second project next week to run along side, so the CPU cores don't keep running dry. I wish they'd either ease up on the concurrent WU download restriction, else base it per CPU core, and not per computer; so multi-core CPUs don't have a problem with too little work.
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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:25 pm Post subject:

OK now that I have it working, let me explain what happened over the past several days.

Just before PG challenge, I switched back to PG on SSG just to get myself ready to switch at the scheduled time. At the same time I had some questions starting to filter in to me about IE9. Since I have four machines (three i7s and a Core2Quad), I updated the Core2Quad to IE9 to be able to answer those questions.

Now that PG challenge finished I moved back to DDM, but the C2Q decided not to run correctly. I started looking and I did not upgrade anything else except IE (Java was already updated a while back).

It's been noted on some tech forms that IE9 has a tendency to change paths on Java. It looks like the issue may be that I have FF 9 Beta and update IE9 and then forced IE9 not to be the default browser, but I am not positive about that. Downgrading did not help.

I had to add in the 3 different paths. The two Java specialty paths and the regular path. I verified these 3 paths are on my three i7 boxes.

It is Thanksgiving holiday in the US. My holiday got thrown for a loop because of some family matters going on. I was frustrated, tired and mad earlier and was not looking at the whole picture. I apologize for being snippy.

I just warn to be careful updating to IE9.

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KWSN-HoC · Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:36 am Post subject:

Skynet One and Skynet Two ..... second names are Hermes and Ares ...... Very Happy

Servers are called Zeus and Hera ..... somtimes the lightning strikes.

Shocked

Cheers

HoC
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