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Lloyd M.
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 Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:38 pm Post subject: Won't connect to localhost - I'm about out of ideas |
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Everyone,
I can't get BOINC to start on my (by far) best shrubber, and I've tried nearly everything I can think of. My apologies to the extent that I'm fuzzy on specifics.
Windoze XP Home (SP2, I think), was operating very, very sluggishly, and I couldn't get it to do a soft restart, so I hit the hard reset. It took a couple of power-off resets to get it to stop complaining about NTLDR being missing, then it finally did a chkdsk, and said something about restoring the registry when it finally booted back up.
Then BOINC wouldn't connect to local host (even with multiple tries), so I did several soft restarts, with no luck.
IE is working fine on the Internet, so I presume my TCP/IP stack is fine.
I downloaded the latest version (5.10.2-something, if I recall correctly) and installed it. It came up with an error message about BOINC something .DLL failing to unregister. I dismissed the error dialog, and installation seemed to proceed normally.
Well, despite a number of tries (just as above), I can't get it to connect to localhost. It keeps timing out. There were some events in my firewall log (the NVIDIA firewall built into the mobo) that had the faint possibility of being related, so I even turned it off.
No luck.
I suppose that doing a complete uninstall/reinstall of BOINC might help, though I really want to make sure I do that right (and I'm not certain of what that is), so I don't lose my work in progress.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Won't connect to localhost - I'm about out of ideas |
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| Lloyd M. wrote: | Everyone,
I can't get BOINC to start on my (by far) best shrubber, and I've tried nearly everything I can think of. My apologies to the extent that I'm fuzzy on specifics.
Windoze XP Home (SP2, I think), was operating very, very sluggishly, and I couldn't get it to do a soft restart, so I hit the hard reset. It took a couple of power-off resets to get it to stop complaining about NTLDR being missing, then it finally did a chkdsk, and said something about restoring the registry when it finally booted back up.
Then BOINC wouldn't connect to local host (even with multiple tries), so I did several soft restarts, with no luck.
IE is working fine on the Internet, so I presume my TCP/IP stack is fine.
I downloaded the latest version (5.10.2-something, if I recall correctly) and installed it. It came up with an error message about BOINC something .DLL failing to unregister. I dismissed the error dialog, and installation seemed to proceed normally.
Well, despite a number of tries (just as above), I can't get it to connect to localhost. It keeps timing out. There were some events in my firewall log (the NVIDIA firewall built into the mobo) that had the faint possibility of being related, so I even turned it off.
No luck.
I suppose that doing a complete uninstall/reinstall of BOINC might help, though I really want to make sure I do that right (and I'm not certain of what that is), so I don't lose my work in progress. |
The good new is an un-install/re-install shouldn't kill your work. The un-install removes the Boinc programs, but not the project data. The new version should pick up where you left off (in theory).
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:46 pm Post subject: Re: Won't connect to localhost - I'm about out of ideas |
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| ohiomike wrote: |
The good new is an un-install/re-install shouldn't kill your work. The un-install removes the Boinc programs, but not the project data. The new version should pick up where you left off (in theory). |
So I tried the uninstall/reinstall, and I'm still getting the same symptoms.
Now I'm really out of ideas.
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Is BOINC running but failing to communicate, or simply failing to run at all?
Boinc has some pretty basic trouble shooting suggestions. Sounds like you may have already tried them, but for the sake of pointing you towards their suggestions
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/trac/wiki/TroubleshootClient
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Try connecting remotely. Create two plain text files (no wordpad).
gui_rpc_auth.cfg with a password in it...
remote_hosts.cfg with 127.0.0.1 in it.
Shut down BOINC (all the way) and restart it. See if it will connect to localhost. If not, see if it will connect to 127.0.0.1 (same thing but different approach).
If it still won't work, open a command prompt and run:
| Code: | | netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416" |
You should have a listener on 127.0.0.1:31416. If you don't then BOINC isn't being allowed to open a port, check for firewall stuff. If you do, but there are no connections (timing out or whatever), then the listener is up but something isn't allowing connections to it.
With the command waiting, try opening the manager and connection, and then immediately re-run the netstat command. You should see connection attempts, and if you don't then something is still blocking them/not allowing the listener to actually accept connections.
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Lloyd M.
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Thanks to everyone for pitching in to try and help. This is pretty weird, since this computer is working fine otherwise, never had serious problems with BOINC before, and was running BOINC just fine before the error recovery this morning.
| JerWA wrote: | If it still won't work, open a command prompt and run:
| Code: | | netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416" |
You should have a listener on 127.0.0.1:31416. If you don't then BOINC isn't being allowed to open a port, check for firewall stuff. If you do, but there are no connections (timing out or whatever), then the listener is up but something isn't allowing connections to it. |
Believe it or not, I actually know something about this, though (obviously), not nearly as much as you. I can't make sense of what is going on here, and it didn't help to disable my NVIDIA firewall again. I even checked to make sure that the Windoze firewall was still disabled.
Here it is (certain details obscured for security reasons)
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C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416"
TCP 127.0.0.1:2528 127.0.0.1:31416 SYN_SENT
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416"
TCP 127.0.0.1:2529 127.0.0.1:31416 SYN_SENT
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416"
TCP 127.0.0.1:2530 127.0.0.1:31416 SYN_SENT
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416"
TCP 127.0.0.1:2531 127.0.0.1:31416 SYN_SENT
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416"
TCP 127.0.0.1:2532 127.0.0.1:31416 SYN_SENT
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416"
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416"
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP
Active Connections
Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:3476 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1028 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1034 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1938 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:3476 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:5354 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP ***.**.**.**:139 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP ***.**.**.**:2168 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2171 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2176 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2311 204.0.3.66:80 CLOSE_WAIT
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP
Active Connections
Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:3476 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1028 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1034 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1938 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:2535 127.0.0.1:31416 SYN_SENT
TCP 127.0.0.1:3476 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:5354 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP ***.**.**.**:139 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP ***.**.**.**:2168 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2171 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2176 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2311 204.0.3.66:80 CLOSE_WAIT
C:\Documents and Settings\******>netstat -an -p TCP
Active Connections
Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:3476 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1028 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1034 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1938 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:3476 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:5354 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP ***.**.**.**:139 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP ***.**.**.**:2168 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2171 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2176 17.254.2.129:80 FIN_WAIT_2
TCP ***.**.**.**:2311 204.0.3.66:80 CLOSE_WAIT
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| Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Eaving wrote: | Is BOINC running but failing to communicate, or simply failing to run at all?
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The client won't connect to localhost (or even 127.0.0.1 per Sir Jerwa's suggestion). I don't think it's actually running. Boincmgr.exe is in my processes.
[edit] Thanks for the link to the wiki. That MicroSoft installer cleanup utility didn't actually find any evidence of the old BOINC Client installation[/edit]
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The lack of a listener means the BOINC Manager is not being allowed to open a port (unless you've changed the port it's listening on, which I don't even know how to do). The SYN_SENT message you're getting shows a connection attempt, but the lack of a listener means it isn't possible for that attempt to succeed.
If you look at my own output you will see a 31416 listener, and 2 connections (I assume one is the manager and one is BoincView), the 3 other connections are to systems on the network I monitor.
| Code: | netstat -an -p TCP | find "31416"
TCP 127.0.0.1:1044 127.0.0.1:31416 ESTABLISHED
TCP 127.0.0.1:3076 127.0.0.1:31416 ESTABLISHED
TCP 127.0.0.1:31416 0.0.0.0:0 LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:31416 127.0.0.1:1044 ESTABLISHED
TCP 127.0.0.1:31416 127.0.0.1:3076 ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.200:3074 192.168.1.202:31416 ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.200:3075 192.168.1.101:31416 ESTABLISHED
TCP 192.168.1.200:3077 192.168.1.100:31416 ESTABLISHED |
Look in your /program files/BOINC directory for the stderr*.txt files and see if there's anything pertinent in there. If there's too much, close BOINC, clear the files, and open it again then check to see if anything new and interesting showed up.
Other than firewall software, I'm at a loss as to what would prevent BOINC from at least opening a listener. That usually requires a more robust firewall like Comodo, Zone Alarm, etc, that monitors applications and stops them before they can even try.
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| JerWA wrote: |
Look in your /program files/BOINC directory for the stderr*.txt files and see if there's anything pertinent in there. If there's too much, close BOINC, clear the files, and open it again then check to see if anything new and interesting showed up. |
Quite a few of these:
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- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x004141B3 write attempt to address 0x00C7D000
Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger...
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and these:
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[09/25/07 20:59:40] TRACE [1920]: RPC_CLIENT::init_poll sock = 384
[09/25/07 20:59:40] TRACE [1920]: RPC_CLIENT::init_poll attempting connect
[09/25/07 20:59:40] TRACE [1920]: RPC_CLIENT::init_poll sock = 38
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| JerWA wrote: |
Other than firewall software, I'm at a loss as to what would prevent BOINC from at least opening a listener. That usually requires a more robust firewall like Comodo, Zone Alarm, etc, that monitors applications and stops them before they can even try. |
I thought the whole idea of a firewall built into the chipset was that it would be more robust than ZoneAlarm, et al.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: Got some additional help, and got this figured out! |
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Well, I set up Skype so I could IM chat with a help volunteer at BOINC. It was a decent hour for him because he was in Australia.
At his suggestion, I tried restore points (none of which worked). The next approach was to reinstall BOINC in a different directory.
That seemed OK, so I tried attaching a project that I haven't attached on this machine yet. Probably not a good move, but it seems to have more or less worked out.
To move over your work in progress, you copy the projects directory (or, in my case, the rest of the old subdirectories in the projects directory, so I wouldn't blow away the project I just attached), the slots directory, and all the XML files in the root BOINC directory.
For some reason, my SETI chicken app went goofy, and the only one I could download was non-graphics. Sigh. They're busy working on something that will be compatible with Vista, first.
Well, at least the BOINC manager isn't complaining any more, and it's a newer version of the SETI app. BOINC IS running fine, and I finally had an excuse to upgrade to the 5.10 client!
We'll see if this hoses up my CPUids
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I am not a IT guy but I think you should check your services. I believe that you need rpc Remote Procedure Call to be enabled for boinc to run correctly. I don't know how but one time that caused me the same problem. If you have messed around with your services or had an infection you should check to see if they are all set correctly.
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Hi Honeys, I'm home. lol
I was googling 'Boinc won't connect to localhost" and look what I found! 
I've got Mandriva 10 running on my old machine that I re-inherited from little missy when she got her laptop. Installed boinc and now have the connection problem.  I'm off to find Remote Procedure Call (whatever that is).
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rpc is a windows service. several other services depend on it. You must have it running to run boinc, and a bunch of other stuff
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Yep, realised later that it was a windows service. I've uninstalled and reinstalled about 4 times now. Maybe it just doesn't like Mandriva for some reason. I think I've had boinc running in Ubuntu but I really wasn't impressed with it last time I used it.
Tim installed it on the Eee pc he gave me but I've taken it off and put the original operating system back on. Seems okay to use and the webcam worked to take FB pics. lol
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I would be using Ubuntu accept I just can't get the video drivers to install for GPU computing. It is most likely my fault but I can't find the directions to install them that I can understand...
Why somebody doesn't write an installer program is beyond me....
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Haven't got a clue about installing anything on linux myself. Instructions are like a foreign language. I always just download through the software channels because they extract and install.
Downloaded a more up-to-date boinc from Berkeley but couldn't work out how to install. Tim had a go and it didn't work for him either, and he knows a heck of a lot more about linux than I do. I think he's tried every 'flavour'. lol He's using opensuse at the moment and trying to set up a mail server and web server on his computer.
I liked Ubuntu, but not the latest release, so that's why I've got Mandriva on the other computer. It's nice! Mandriva 11 is not as nice as 10 so I've put 10 back on. Might try Fedora again and see how that is now. Mint wasn't bad either. I've tried 8 and 9.
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Installed openSUSE as I could not get BOINC to connect to localhost in Mandriva. Installing BOINC now so I'll keep fingers crossed and see what happens. It would be nice to get it working on this machine as well as the windows machine. I know I have had it working in linux but it may have been Ubuntu or Mint.
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Finally got it working in a round-a-bout way. Gave up on openSUSE and decided to try Fedora before trying Ubuntu again.
Wouldn't connect to localhost when opened through the applications menu, but will open when the little cog icon is clicked after going through the maze-like file system to find the right folder.
The little cog icon is now residing on the the task bar, and I've attached to some projects.
I remember the days when KDE desktop was a pain in comparison to the ease and simplicity of Gnome. I guess there's been a huge reversal because KDE Plasma is very nice and Gnome is dreadful and way more difficult to configure (for me anyway).
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