KWSN Orbiting Fortress Forum Index KWSN Orbiting Fortress
KWSN Distributed Computing Teams forum
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

CPU Project of the Month Sept. '11 => Yoyo
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    KWSN Orbiting Fortress Forum Index -> KWSN BOINC'ers
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
LanDroid
Prince
Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002
Posts: 4476
Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:08 am    Post subject: CPU Project of the Month Sept. '11 => Yoyo Reply with quote

After setting up a ballot to resolve a 4 way tie, some folks kept voting on the original tied ballot and Yoyo won. Yoyo also won the "tie-breaker", which proves once again that KWSN administrates free and fair elections with no shennanigans as verified by international observers. Laughing This election included a broader ballot of projects as Yoyo was previously PotM two years ago in August 2009. This election also involved the separation of votes for CPU vs. GPU projects.
Quote:
yoyo@home brings existing distributed computing projects to the Boinc world using the Boinc Wrapper technology. yoyo@home is currently running the following sub-projects:
Harmonious Trees Graham and Sloane proposed in 1980 a conjecture stating that every tree has a harmonious labelling, a graph labelling closely related to additive base. We do a computational approach to this conjecture by checking trees with limited size.
ECM is a program for Elliptic Curve Factorization which is used by a couple of projects to find factors for different kind of numbers.
Muon simulates and designs parts of a particle accelerator. You are simulating the part of the process where the proton beam hits the target rod and causes pions to be emitted, which decay into muons.
evolution@home represents the first and so far only distributed computing project addressing evolutionary research. It simulates different types of populations and focuses on the analysis of human mitochondrial DNA.
- the distributed.net client runs OGR work units. This project searches for the shortest Optimal Golumb Ruler of the length 27.

http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
LanDroid
Prince
Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002
Posts: 4476
Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some recent complaints about WU timing that may be related to checkpointing. One solution is not to reboot unless critical - you will probably lose work time on programs that don't have checkpointing. In general I think these situations can be resolved because Yoyo applications have been running for several years and so should be stable.

One exception is Harmonious Trees, which is only 3 - 4 weeks old and on version 0.03. There is some discussion of aborting Harmonious Trees WU's here:
http://www.rechenkraft.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=11768&sid=d517ccf47933e3e80170f7a0747bb298

If you have a problem with a particular program, don't abandon Yoyo; deselect that program and focus on others, hopefully finding at least one you can get along with. If you have trouble logging in, try another browser - Yoyo doesn't seem to like my locked down Chrome settings...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
LanDroid
Prince
Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002
Posts: 4476
Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show us your steekink baaadges!

http://www.rechenkraft.net/wiki/index.php?title=Yoyo%40home/badges

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
stooper101
Prince
Prince


Joined: 16 May 2009
Posts: 1248
Location: Cheese Country

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I remember of the various sub-projects:
-Evolution has no check-pointing. So either don't turn off the computer or don't crunch it.
-Muon has a weird way of giving progress percentage. Don't remember what/why/how it works, but it will go for a long time and just when you think it's all screwed up, it will go some more and then after a while, it will stop.
-ECM works well on 64 bit systems but will also work fine on 32.
-OGR usually takes a long time.
-Harmonious Trees, I've been doing some for a little while now and have had no troubles.
-Euler is done.
-EvoRobots, I haven't gotten any yet. It's still in beta/development/whatever, so if it shows up again, I'll try it.

That's about all I know. There's probably a lot more to it than what I know, but it's a start.
_________________


>stats<
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
LanDroid
Prince
Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002
Posts: 4476
Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Starting stats:
19th Place
8,298,263 Points
13,449 RAC
292,398 Points crunched last 28 days
39th Place, 1,056,846 points Formula Boinc
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
Clark
Prince
Prince


Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 1448

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've got some Cosmology, MalariaControl,Leiden Classical,ABC,Enigma and Milkyway crunching but soon my Shrubber should be 100% Yoyo despite the fact that I swapped my vote to Cosmology making it win the Tiebreaker.

I think the next POTM options should be projects that haven't been POTM before.
_________________


Badges:
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gemjunkie
Prince
Prince


Joined: 03 Jul 2010
Posts: 3519
Location: Earth, lately

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't had trouble with Harmonious Trees. Don't let the progress bar's freezing upset you, it will probably jump ahead while you're not looking.

I don't see EvoRobots listed anymore, maybe discontinued?

Clark wrote:
I think the next POTM options should be projects that haven't been POTM before.

We were running out of virgin projects.

And try getting a question answered on the Cosmology boards, the universe will have expanded visibly before you get a response. Laughing


#ni-1
_________________




(older, before split CPID)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Plomos
Prince
Prince


Joined: 26 Apr 2011
Posts: 859

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright so I'm trying out Trees, ecm, and ogr to see which works well. Although lately my boinc has been deciding to stop due to my CPU usage for other stuff being too high despite the fact that I changed the boinc settings to let it compute while in use and put no restrictions on how much it can use. After a while it reverts to the old settings and i have to go change it again. Why doesn't it stay with what i told it?
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Clark
Prince
Prince


Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 1448

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you setting the preferences?

If you set the preferences in BOINC manager it overrides any set up on project web pages.
_________________


Badges:
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Plomos
Prince
Prince


Joined: 26 Apr 2011
Posts: 859

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ended up setting them from yoyo and then went to boinc manager and made a couple of tweaks and it seems to be working right now
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blurf
Prince
Prince


Joined: 03 Jan 2011
Posts: 1090
Location: Upstate NY

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm in....
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Plomos
Prince
Prince


Joined: 26 Apr 2011
Posts: 859

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Turned in my first tree WU after 05:10:06 (02:28:32) considerably less time than the other subprojects. Looking forward to going through more wood Smile
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Nuadormrac
Prince
Prince


Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Posts: 506

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harmonious trees took a long time and is frozen at 67.5..% Not sure how long it will take, Muon is frozen at 33.333%... Course not rebooting is not an option, I'm on a laptop, and well can't afford Internet at home, at the moment. Stupid deep recession the US economy is still in, in spite of what some would like us to believe.... Needless to say, no reboot, no Internet access at all, no phoning home #ni-1 Well that, and I can't wait until this so-called jobless "recovery" is a thing of the past Surprised

Well any case, 2 WUs completed. What made Malaria difficult to maneage last month, is that all their WUs of wildly different results (some taking less then an hour, others taking more then Cool was that they all retained a general estimate on time completed. BOINC client also lowers this average slowly, but raises it instantly. Net result, time where for instance it couldn't get back on the Internet for 48 hours straight or so, and needing days of work queued, it would get the idea it won't complete so couldn't be coaxed into taking an extra large queue (I cranked it up, and sometimes it just wouldn't fetch), and othertimes, manually lowering the queue size, it would get too many, and go past expiratory.... It required much human intervention to try to keep the queue full though on boxes that couldn't be online 24/7, or even necessarily every day.

The queue lengths are longer here, so it might require less micromanaging to keep the queue from emptying or going past expiration though. I just hope with these size WUs, they credit really well #ni-1
_________________


.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gemjunkie
Prince
Prince


Joined: 03 Jul 2010
Posts: 3519
Location: Earth, lately

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a problem, Harmonious Trees often downloads with a 20-30 hrs. estimate but actually complete in 1-4 hrs.


#ni-1
_________________




(older, before split CPID)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Blurf
Prince
Prince


Joined: 03 Jan 2011
Posts: 1090
Location: Upstate NY

PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I just abandoned all my evolution....they were running well past 10 hours even though they said they were done. Downloaded a bunch of tree work
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Plomos
Prince
Prince


Joined: 26 Apr 2011
Posts: 859

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today's Stones and other stats

KWSN Grizzly passes 300,000
KWSN Sir Clark passes 1,000

19th in team rank
17,136 RAC
11,941 FDC RAC
38,419 Shrubs yesterday
8,356,280 Shrubs total

Next opportunity

BOINC@Poland 8,372,787 - 16,507 left to go
PBToyz 8,634,543 - 278,263 left to go

Great job so far guys
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Clark
Prince
Prince


Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 1448

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope everyone is crunching Harmonious Shrubberies
_________________


Badges:
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
LanDroid
Prince
Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002
Posts: 4476
Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is the Muon sub-project the same as this one?

http://stephenbrooks.org/muon1/
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
Plomos
Prince
Prince


Joined: 26 Apr 2011
Posts: 859

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, from yoyo's website when you click on Muon it takes you to that site
_________________

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
LanDroid
Prince
Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002
Posts: 4476
Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, does that mean Yoyo is also a wrapper? We're crunching dual wrappers this month in CPU and GPU PotM's?

Dual rappers? Shouldn't we release a CD, start touring, make a few cool million, then blow it all quickly on champagne, jets, and loose women?
#Fadeing color #Afro #Crazy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    KWSN Orbiting Fortress Forum Index -> KWSN BOINC'ers All times are GMT - 5 Hours
Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Page 1 of 5

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Optimized Seti@Home App | BOINC Stats