KWSN Orbiting Fortress

ToeBee · Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 12:22 pm Post subject: LHC v2

So the other day I somehow stumbled across a new LHC project that CERN is testing. It seems that the old LHC@home project is a lost cause or something because they didn't revive it but instead stood up an entirely new project. It is very... "different"

They have a custom execution environment set up in a small Scientific Linux virtual machine image. You have to install VirtualBox 4.1 before attaching to the project. Then it downloads their machine image (a couple hundred MB I think) and fires it up under VirtualBox to do the work.

I ran in to some problems at first. I think there were some VirtualBox error messages that popped up and I didn't see them or something. I completely shut down BOINC and the virtual machine and started everything back up and now it seems to be working. Work units take a full day to complete. I have two of them under my belt and a third one running now.

For the reasons above, I wouldn't recommend this project to any sane people. Or anyone who hasn't worked with VirtualBox before. I suspect the second criteria will eliminate more people here than the first.

There is at least one other knight on the project. If you want to be adventerous, the URL with general information about the project is: http://lhcathome.web.cern.ch/LHCathome/Physics/ and the actual BOINC server (and project attach URL) is http://boinc01.cern.ch/test4theory. The Knights can be found at http://boinc01.cern.ch/test4theory/team_display.php?teamid=52

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The Knighty NI · Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:07 pm Post subject:

WHAT?

I sincerely hope that you are not suggesting any of us Proud Kannigats are sane Sir.... Huurummpphh

As for Virtual Box that would be like charging upon one's trusty steed at the arms of the windmill with one's Lance at full tilt

all together now CHAAAARRRGGGE
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Gemjunkie · Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:14 pm Post subject:

Stooper reported on this, too:
http://www.kwsnforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=16670

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LanDroid · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject:

Grizzly · Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:57 pm Post subject:

uMMM , THAT WOULD BE ME THEN WITH MY EXPERIMENTAL Intel Atom 1.8 girly box Embarassed

Sorry .

Back to BoBo's now (GGB)

Grizz.
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PhastPhred · Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 9:26 pm Post subject:

656770 473935 17 Sep 2011 20:09:16 UTC 17 Oct 2011 20:09:16 UTC In progress --- --- --- Test4Theory v6.05
654221 471386 16 Sep 2011 23:28:28 UTC 17 Sep 2011 20:09:16 UTC Error while computing 72,477.03 430.33 --- Test4Theory v6.05
653553 470718 16 Sep 2011 20:06:38 UTC 16 Sep 2011 23:28:28 UTC Error while computing 11,450.78 118.89 --- Test4Theory v6.05
652862 470027 16 Sep 2011 13:28:30 UTC 16 Sep 2011 20:06:38 UTC Error while computing 23,324.25 191.88 --- Test4Theory v6.05
652830 469995 16 Sep 2011 13:06:19 UTC 16 Sep 2011 13:14:13 UTC Error while computing 325.00 40.58 --- Test4Theory v6.05
652822 469987 16 Sep 2011 13:22:45 UTC 16 Sep 2011 13:28:30 UTC Error while computing 223.31 45.27 --- Test4Theory v6.05
652820 469985 16 Sep 2011 13:14:13 UTC 16 Sep 2011 13:22:44 UTC Error while computing 436.59 37.86 --- Test4Theory v6.05
651655 468820 16 Sep 2011 5:48:17 UTC 16 Sep 2011 13:06:19 UTC Error while computing

I am stuck - Wheels spinnin' and getting nowhere PHAST!
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LanDroid · September 16, 2011, 22:30 GMT

Detach and re-attach to LHC Classic V1 and you should get some WU's... Server status says over 115K tasks ready to send... Let's smash some particles to smithereens!

Plomos · Prince Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Posts: 859

The current application version is 7.01 so make sure WUs are running that.

Official up to date page for the project is here http://lhcathome2.cern.ch/test4theory/

I've been running a few WUs from it recently and getting some good credit out of them. currently 99 tasks ready to send and 3,567 in progress. Enjoy the particles guys.

oh also make sure your virtual box is a 4.1.x version. my latest and greatest version is 4.1.4 and it works gooooood
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LanDroid · Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 4:27 pm Post subject:

Trying to get this to work without much success. WU's error after a few seconds and no indication that Virtual Box (V. 4.1.6) set up any VM's. ???

Already had to install updated Boinc then re-install without protected mode. Grrrr....

Plomos · Prince Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Posts: 859

When you install virtualbox make sure you install the network drivers as well when its asks you so that the whole thing will work right. If its working correctly then when boinc gets a WU it will start up VB and start the real WU from there.
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LanDroid · Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 3:09 am Post subject:

I re-installed Virtual Box to make sure the drivers are in place. Don't see any difference, no VM's set up, but it's difficult to tell 'cuz of the following restriction.

"12/13/2011 10:22:02 PM | Test4Theory@Home | This computer has finished a daily quota of 1 tasks"

Plomos · Prince Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Posts: 859

Hmm, that could because the WUs are supposed to last ~24 hrs. Although you're not getting any VB WUs. I would head over to their forum and ask there as they are very helpful and should be able to help you find the problem

http://lhcathome2.cern.ch/test4theory/forum_index.php
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sounds good to me
will come back and leave further comments

PhastPhred · Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:30 pm Post subject:

Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

I turned a unit in successfully which I completed last night, so dunno.... But yeah the old project's web URL changed, and it kept bugging me to reattach... I just hadn't got to it previously....

Ideally the classic will retain our old credits and build upon it; but who knows... Well until they re-attach that is #ni-1

Unless someone is running multiple VMs on their box, no idea how they're sucking up all the tasks, as they restrict one to downloading one per box. In some ways, I do wish they'd ease the restriction somewhat for multi-core CPUs; but supposedly they will do something for multi-core CPUs in the future. Multi-core procs are like almost all of them sold today, I don't think Intel and AMD make many uni-core procs anymore, that get put into modern PCs....

Edit, yeah my old account page was migrated over to their new server and it retains the old stats....
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PhastPhred · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:52 am Post subject:

Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

This laptop is so old; taunting on it isn't fun.... Now if I had the money for a new computer :p #ni-1

I could even build one, if I only had the money for parts Surprised

Actually the stupid thing, the battery on it is so old, it can't run more then 3 mins on a battery charge, and the build in monitor is dead, meaning have to use an external monitor to well... Laptop it is, but portable it isn't exactly as such anymore #ni-1

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PhastPhred · Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 6:09 am Post subject:

I have similar problems with two laptops - I use a free program, called Team Viewer, that allows me online access from anywhere - In house here, I go thru the network - On my sister's PC, I go thru the Internet - Free, easy, and no special attention is needed - I can even update and reboot if necessary from miles away
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