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Yankton
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We could always taunt them on someone else's forum!
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LanDroid
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| Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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HAHAAAA! If we taunted them on Overclockers or typed upside down in this forum would the Aussies notice? 
Milestones:
tom passed 800,000
John Galt 007 passes 750,000
Dr Vornoffs Hex Machina passed 250,000
Al Dente passed 250,000
CommanderKeen1985 passed 200,000
Blurf passed 80,000
Sir Stooper passes 60,000
Claus Misfeldt passes 50,000
Mildew passed 50,000
CharonM72 passed 40,000
pfritzmorkin passes 9,000
Williamd007 passes 6,000 |
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LanDroid
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | CASP 9 Competition
CASP is an international experiment to assess the state-of-the-art of the protein structure prediction field. Sequences, whose structures have been solved but which have not yet been published are sent out to participating teams and we have a limited amount of time to send back predictions. The whole thing is conducted in a double-blind fashion ensuring fair assessment and truly blind prediction.
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=5308
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Basically an attempt to find out who has the best methods of accurately predicting protein folding. So how did Rosetta/Boinc do?
| Quote: | The CASP9 meeting was very interesting. The general consensus of the assessors this year was that there were a number of groups "at the top", but there were no outright winners-there is a bit of bunching up and many groups did very well by successfully picking from among the models submitted by automated servers (you can imagine this led to a lot of discussion at the meeting). While no group clearly outperformed other groups by a significant margin, the best ab initio structure prediction at the meeting stood out quite clearly. This was a Rosetta@home product entirely-the rosettaServer this year sent jobs out to rosetta@home and then submitted models from the lowest energy clusters. this was without a doubt the best automated ab initio structure prediction in casp.
In contrast to our approach with rosetta@home which carries out a large scale search for the lowest energy structure, other groups have developed methods that cleverly exploit information present in the protein structure database, and with the increase in the size of this database, these methods keep working better. I am now very interested in using such information to help guide the search for the lowest energy structure (which is very hard for large proteins), in the same way we have been using experimental data to guide search. Some of the jobs going out in the next months on rosetta@home will be testing approaches for taking advantage of this information.
David Baker
1/11/11
http://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/forum_thread.php?id=5308
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Poem@Home is a similar Boinc project that KWSN crunches, how did they do in CASP 9? Notice they took a different approach than Rosetta.
| Quote: | In the official CASP ranking we were ranked group 119 TBM and group 54 Link in the free modeling assessment. This year's casp we predicted all models, which were sent out. At first the template based modeling results for Human groups were quite disappointing, because a place of 119 is simply not favourable, however once you inspect the results it can be easily explained. This year we focused on few high quality templates. Our approach in comparison to last year was not to take many different templates, relax them quickly and then select the best one, but to really do changes to the few template proteins, which we thought to be the best.
The problem now was that since we had a much smaller pool to choose from the template structure which we thought to be the best usually was not. The strategy we employed therefore had a fault directly at the beginning: Picking the best template structure.
From that we have learnt one very important thing: We must not chose the template structures by ourselves. We are good at actually picking a good structure once we have many models, but we are not good to make a worse structure better than the best which was built: The refinement process failed, because it would simply take too long.
http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/index.php?section=resultpage
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I couldn't find anything on how folding@home performed or if they even participated.
The next CASP 10 competition will be in 2012. (Dropping the seed that KWSN may want to crunch CASP10 work units seriously for several months next year...) |
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LanDroid
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| Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2011 12:58 pm Post subject: Fold It! |
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If you're interested in the protein folding processes of folding@home, Poem, and Rosetta, you might want to play the game "Fold It", developed by the folks at Rosetta. In this game, you poke, prod, pull, rattle, and rotate raw protein structures in order to improve them by reducing the energy in the structure. Part of this game is to research if humans can do better than computers at these processes.
I enjoyed this game a while back, but it is not easy - they even have a series of training exercises to go through before working on actual proteins. The more you play, the more your analytical and modification "skills" improve. Playing the Fold It game will also give you an intuitive feel for what these Boinc projects are doing... Yes, there is a KWSN team.
http://fold.it/portal/
By the way, Fold It also participated in CASP 9 - here's a summary of their results.
http://fold.it/portal/node/989010 |
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LanDroid
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| Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:23 am Post subject: |
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The Overclockers are laying some smack down as in $$$ during the month of March. A Rosetta crunching contest with gift certificates as prizes...
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?s=b1ffd67015429b07bb25bbb54818056d&t=669587
In the last two days, Overclockers have gained 15K and 20K on us and they're currently 155K behind. So KWSN has cut down the 50K daily gain they used to have. We might be able to hold them off this month - keep those wheel spinning! 
Milestones:
DoW passes 950,000
Idan Shifres passed 90,000
SpineyNorman passes 40,000
Williamd007 passed 7,000
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baditude_df
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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That's right droid! We're throwing down the gauntlet.
We're challenging you and your team to a Race to 15th Place!
Does KWSN have what it takes to beat us there? I'm not sure that you do, but if you accept our challenge, we'll definitely get a buttload of science done in the process and that's what counts. 
I must warn you though, the last time a team taunted us, they got a bit more then they bargained for. It was back in August of 08' while we were stagnant back in 109th place, and look at us now.
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stooper101
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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baditude_df
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet.
Love the sig btw. 
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Blurf
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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Umm...stooper101 you accepted for yourself--we should have a vote if we wish to stay with Rosetta for march as a team
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Yankton
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, but we also rig all the votes. We need to have a vote as to whether or not to rig the march vote.
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stooper101
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| Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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I guess I wasn't thinking along the lines of March.  I did not do the simple research as to what place we are currently in. Just figured it was close, but now I see it is quite a long way off. I was mostly just responding to their taunt and since it is still February...
I still stand by my looneyness! By 15th place they did mean an alpaca, right?
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baditude_df
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| Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Less talky, more crunchy!
Why would you guys come over and taunt us if you weren't prepared for a challenge?
Come on guys, pick it up or we're gonna blow right by you and never look back!
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LanDroid
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:41 am Post subject: |
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We passed Australia, but KWSN is still in 19th place because the Overclockers passed us! Time for double-reverse taunting!
Milestones:
John Galt 007 850,000
Dr Vornoffs Hex Machina 300,000
Adam Alexander 150,000
Idan Shifres 100,000
Windisch 90,000
Mildew 70,000
Sir Stooper 70,000
SpineyNorman 50,000
Williamd007 10,000
Barracuda 9,000
lo 4,000
Gray Houston 3,000
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Gemjunkie
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| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:26 am Post subject: |
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Rosetta will be down periodically today, you may want to increase your cache.
| Quote: | Feb 23, 2011
Outage Notice: We are going to update our scheduler tomorrow, Thursday the 24th. The project will be offline intermittantly throughout the day. |
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LanDroid
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| Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:24 am Post subject: |
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Final stats:
75,147,051 Points + 3,335,765
19th Place +/- 0
114,155 RAC + 64,798
111,590 Points yesterday +49,458
88,764 DC Vault Biomedical points + 23
Milestones:
John Galt 007 passed 1,000,000
Sir Stooper passed 90,000
LanDroid passed 50,000
Katherine passed 40,000
Williamd007 passed 25,000
I'd say Rosetta ran very smoothly, but not too exciting as we passed one team, only to be passed by another to remain in 19th place... However we did get a little taunting action going...
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baditude_df
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| Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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So Sad.
Oh well, overclockers.com is on the express elevator to the top.
We'll be sure to write. 
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Killerrabbit
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| Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:54 am Post subject: |
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You could always join us and we could create a super uber team with me in charge.
Ni
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