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Al Dente · Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject:

Sorry, I've got to desert for a short while to repel boarders -

Phew, that was close, back as soon as poss.

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LanDroid · Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:33 am Post subject:

Yes, a close call indeed! Razz

Ibercivis error message:
3/24/2010 5:27:52 AM EST ibercivis Message from server: Server error: feeder not running

Can't return completed WU's...

LanDroid · Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:53 pm Post subject:

Well now Ibercivis is accepting work units back, but they ain't sending any out:

3/24/2010 6:49:57 PM EST ibercivis Message from server: (Project has no jobs available)

stooper101 · Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject:

Also seems like the stats exports are all messed up. Ibercivis website shows (what looks like) current stats, but both FreeDC and BOINCstats have not been updated for awhile.
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Sir Papa Smurph · Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:55 pm Post subject:

I have been running that quantum thingie as a back up due to the unreliability of our current PotM. I am running about 5k a day on quantum and about 1k on Ibciverus... This project is a disaster.... defiantly not ready for the Vault....
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LanDroid · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 5:37 am Post subject:

I'd like to come up with a semi-formal report to the Vault on our POTM experience. Suggest giving a few details and a recommendation?

From my perspective (1 computer w/3 cores), I never ran out of Ibercivis work so the server problems weren't a big deal. Did other kanigits run out of work? The blip with statistics and the correction was highly annoying, but I got over that quickly. The lack of an official forum is bad, no way to find out wazzup with a problem that I can see.

However, easily distracted kanigits will agree the flying colors in the following link make up for a lot of sins!

http://www.ibercivis.es/index.php?module=public&section=channels&action=view&id_channel=8&id_subchannel=111

Can we say Ibercivis is OK for the casual cruncher, but it can't handle heavy hitting from a team? (Not sure if that makes much sense, too early in the day... ) We should say something about the point system being too stingy to hold the interest of stat ho's? Razz

Yankton · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject:

The fact that their quorum is lower than the initial replication is a big turn off for me. I won't do their project again until that is changed.
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A Shrubbery · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:05 pm Post subject:

The work supply problems I had were never a big issue. When it didn't have work it usually sent on the next request. I'd tell the vault people that it's no worse than some of the things they have included.
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Sir Papa Smurph · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject:

I had some major work supply issues.
On most of my machines it would not give me more than one WU per core and it would occasionally say that I wouldn't finish in time even when it was the only cpu project.. My boxes sat idle much of the time until I attached to Quantum Fire....
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LanDroid · Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 10:52 pm Post subject:

Yankton said "The fact that their quorum is lower than the initial replication is a big turn off for me."

Sorry, someone needs to translate that for me... Embarassed

Yankton · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:11 am Post subject:

It means people would get 0 credits for completing the work unit because they would send it to 3 people, and only give credit to the first two to send results in. Wasted CPU cycles - a rather poor setup that does not inspire shrubbers to return. Sad

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Sir Papa Smurph · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:54 am Post subject:

LanDroid · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 5:50 am Post subject:

How do we identify the quorum/replication requirements for a project? This is something we should consider before voting on a POTM?

Sir Papa Smurph · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 7:52 am Post subject:

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Yankton · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:58 am Post subject:

If you go look at your work units on a projects site, it will tell you the initial replication, quorum and allowable number of errors for a work unit. It may vary by sub-project as well, I'm not sure. Should be pretty easy to scope out, but I don't think I've personally encountered this situation outside of ibercivis.
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A Shrubbery · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:04 pm Post subject:

Actually, it used to be a very widespread practice for projects that wanted results returned quickly.

The third person is not necessarily shanked credits. As long as they return it within the deadline, the credits are awarded. I don't know how Ibercivis does it because I don't care enough to look, but not awarding credits is rare at best.

Yes, you can argue for wasted CPU cycles. That's more of a philosophical debate about speed vs. contribution and I won't go there right now.
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Yankton · Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 9:57 pm Post subject:

well, I was returning WUs the same day I got them, but I was the third one to return them and received 0 credits. They have no forum to discuss it on, so at the very least, I won't be there again.

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LanDroid · Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2010 7:26 am Post subject:

We're up to 16th place now. Production is down as expected 26K - 29K last two days...

Milestones:
John Galt 007 passed 450,000
Al Dente passed 250,000
Sir Papa Smurph passed 70,000

LanDroid · Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:51 pm Post subject:

Final stats:
16th Place +51 !
1,232,380 Points + 1,017,898
26,757 RAC + 19,829

51 Places - that's some SERIOUS stomping goin' on!