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mohrorless · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject: Credit Ho chart

Does someone have that Credit comparison chart (or a link to it)? Now that POEM is not the POTM, I wnat to get my shrubbers something with a bit more credit on them to go with POEM.
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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

http://boincstats.com/stats/project_cpcs.php

Looks like Drug Discovery @ Home (never heard of it) is the Ho king, at more than 5x the credit of SETI@Home.

http://boinc.drugdiscoveryathome.com/

Of course, with that high of a credit mod, you know a correction is gonna hit sooner or later.

Edit: Whoops, they have no work.

Edges @ Home is also over 5x, but they're also out of work (surprise surprise): http://home.edges-grid.eu/home/

BRATS is over 3x, also no work.

Not looking good for ho'ing without a GPU. Sad

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mohrorless · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject:

At the moment I have NO GPUs and no prospects either. What I do have is 3 32 bit PCs running Win XP Pro.

Any suggestions?
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stooper101 · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:08 pm Post subject:

Aqua pays pretty good, but you need at least a 2-core to run it. Then there's always FreeHAL, you can run up to 25 WUs alongside anything else you got. example: my quad core with 1 gpu can do 30 tasks at once (1 gpu, 4 on any project, 25 on FreeHAL). It's an easy way to pick up an extra couple thousand a day.
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mohrorless · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject:

What is free hal?

I used to shrub Aqua. It's been a while. I forgot why I stopped. Maybe I shall restart it and see how it goes.

No GPU here, so those are right out.
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stooper101 · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:05 pm Post subject:

FreeHAL - http://freehal.net/freehal_at_home/

Some kind of AI that's trying to mimic conversation.
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Al Dente · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:20 pm Post subject:

As well as FreeHal, Docking, Yoyo & PrimeGrid (on PSP Sieve) are all paying pretty reasonable credit on "standard" CPU work.

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Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

Even without a GPU, Milkyway gives a fairly nice credit return with the optimized app. A QU giving like 52 or 53 credits, can go from around 2 hours on the stock app, to about 1 hr 25 or so minutes on the optimized. Yeah if you have a GPU, you want to throw it on there, but sitting up around 40 credits per hour is a lot more then many projects give...

Oh, and those simulated conversations, I don't put much stock in those. Laughing

Back when I was in high school, we had a field trip to this museum that had one of those contraptions that was supposed to mimic a psychologist. Easy way to trip the stupid thing up; use figures of speech (and we all know that English isn't really that precise) #ni-1

Typed in "Mother nature is rather unkind today, it's raining"; and it started coming back with questions about whether your mother was abusive growing up :p Typed that it was just stupid, and obviously this machine couldn't get "mother nature" as distinct from "mother/parent", and it was like "tell me about your fear of machines". Pretty stupid for a conversationalist. Though I didn't type:

"OK, the next thing I'm going to say is a lie"
"The last thing I said was the truth"

Those things would be just too easy to trip up, given there's no actual intelligence outside what got programed in, which is executed faithfully to a degree of exactness no human would ever use in a conversation. Well that, along with puns, figures of speech, play on words, jokes, etc #ni-1

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Al Dente · Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject:

I think FreeHal is trying to work out how to get machines to give natural language replies, in both English & German; they appear to be using the German Wikipedia for source material at the moment.

I hope they succeed, who'd want to ask for some Oberammergaueralpenkräuterdelikatessenfrühstückskäse before they've had their 1st cup of coffee in the morning (it's cheese, actually Oberammergau alpine herb deli-style breakfast cheese), or at lunch having to check that their steak conforms with the Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz (beef labelling law). Then if you go on a boat ride you might get to see das Vierwaldstätterseedampfshiffsfahrtsgeselschaftskapitänsmützensternlein (the star on the captain's cap), especially if you peek through his Donaydampfshiffahrtsgesellschaftskapitaenskajuetenschluesseloch (keyhole).

I suppose once they've cracked German & English, they could try Swedish - I'd like to know what nordöstersjökustartilleriflygspaningssimularoranläggningsmateriel-underhallsuppföljnings-systemdiskussionsinläggsförberedelse-arbeten is.

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Idan · Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject:

Al Dente · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:54 am Post subject:

Of course - the last bit must be Swedish for Arboretum. Laughing

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mohrorless · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 7:25 am Post subject:

Well it took the whole weekend, but I remembered why I stopped Aqua. The never ending WU. I had 2 different shrubbers working on Aqua over the weekend. Not 1 WU completed between them. In fact the time to completion kept going up!

I am doing NFS, POEM and Seti. I might put MW on one of the PCs and remove Seti from it. Anyone have any idea where I might get the optimized MW ?
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John Galt 007 · Prince Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 1206 Location: Wisconsin

www.brilliantsite.com

Ice hosts the opt. apps for MW....but since MW is down at the moment, you won't get any work...
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mohrorless · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:24 am Post subject:

Thanks, I'll wait.
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John Galt 007 · Prince Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 1206 Location: Wisconsin

And now another DB reset...much gnashing of teeth in the MW forums...lost credit, etc...
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mohrorless · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 9:06 pm Post subject:

That sucks.
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