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LanDroid

Our first return project (excluding 2 months in a row of SHA-1 Collision), POEM is back after 6 months...

Protein Optimization with Energy Methods!

By joining this project you will contribute to a computational approach to:

* predict the biologically active structure of proteins
* understand the signal-processing mechanisms when the proteins interact with one another
* understand diseases related to protein malfunction or aggregation
* develop new drugs on the basis of the three-dimensions structure of biologically important proteins.

POEM@HOME implements a novel approach to understand these aspects of protein structure, which lends itself very well to worldwide distributed computing. The scientific approach behind POEM@HOME is a computational realization of the thermodynamic hypothesis that won C. B. Anfinsen the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1972.

http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/

Grawlfang · Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 3:50 am Post subject:

Okay, POEM it is then...

a big thank you to all the Knights who shrubbed away so hard on my project during September.

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LanDroid · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:06 am Post subject:

Current stat status:

25th place
4,585,167 points
9,093 RAC
18,159 points yesterday

PhastPhred · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:12 pm Post subject:

Ready! (But I'll still find time for Grizz)
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LanDroid · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 5:23 am Post subject:

We have already passed a tesm, the protein structural analysis room Japan.

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John Galt 007 · Prince Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 1206 Location: Wisconsin

I'll be there once I kill the PG challenge...

Twisted Evil

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KWSN imcrazynow · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject:

Now I remember why i quit shrubbing POEM the last time.
It DOES NOT play well with milkyway. #Mad

I may sit this one out guys. Probably do PG.
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John Galt 007 · Prince Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 1206 Location: Wisconsin

Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

When I tried collatz to see if it would run with my gfx card, it griped about the lattest release of boinc not being the current lattest, so I upgraded to 6.10.7 to make it happy. I'd have to see if it will play nicely with Milkyway. Milkyway is a must with any mix of projects, as

- I have the optimized MW client, and not using the stock
- I need it's credit return to do nice things for my RAC and credit positions. Especially given a a now 4 year old Athlon 64 3500+ which could use an upgrade, except I don't have the cash to... For the team, total credits is also a consideration as according to BOINCstats we're losing ground ever so slightly

http://boincstats.com/stats/boinc_team_stats.php?pr=bo&st=0

Looking at RAC, we're 41 days from taking down BOINC@australia, not just on genetic life, not just on MW (yeah we're threatening them there also #ni-1

), but also on combined. However, on the other hand, BOINC stats, and boinc@poland are approaching with a RAC of 3.8 and 2.7 mil respective. Yes, the consideration is being a credit whore Laughing

But any project will have to play nicely with MW for it to get a gaurenteed portion of my crunch time.

I'll take a look, under the beta client after some current WUs get cleaned outa my queue (well the CPDN one can sit for awhile), so I don't go post deadline on some...
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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

I have MW and POEM running together at home (6.10.3) without issue yet, but it's also time-sharing with a lot of other stuff (SIMAP & GenLife mainly).

I guess I'll see how it's done when I get home from work.
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John Galt 007 · Prince Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 1206 Location: Wisconsin

OK...setislave6 is done with Docking and is currently running 2xMW and 4xPOEM with BM 6.10.3...and it will stay in this config until the challenge tomorrow...updates as they become necessary...
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KWSN imcrazynow · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject:

Poem and MW will run side by side but as soon as MW runs out of work it will not request more. I can reset debt to zero and it will get one batch of MW and then still won't request more. If I suspend Poem, MW will request wok but as soon as it's done it won't request again until I suspend poem again. I've not had this problem to this degree with anything else i've run. Confused

Boinc 6.4.7
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Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

Just a quick question, more a just checking then anything. Was POEM running on their previously, or is this a new connect? If it has been attached for a time, what's the debt for the thing? Just wondering if this is a permanent problem that would effect anyone, or if perhaps you have a lot of debt that got accumulated for POEM, for which manually editing it might fix this...
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John Galt 007 · Prince Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 1206 Location: Wisconsin

Since I haven't run POEM since the last time it was POTM, I should have mega debt, but it is not behaving that way...setislave6 is plugging along with a full cache of MW and running 4xPOEM and 2xMW very nicely with 0.0 connect and 0.25 extra cache on 6.10.3...

I have finished 4 POEM and D/Led work as needed to keep all 4 cores running...

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Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

Was a thought, given one can manually edit the debt, and set Milkyway for instance in being owed debt. This would take some file editing, and something some did when they wanted to force their client to only run LHC when it had work #ni-1

An FYI, Milkyway is now giving

JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Upgrade to 6.10.3, it's better than 6.4.7 in every way (which is the version I upgraded from). Until you get into the 6.10.x family nothing will schedule against GPUs properly, period. You'll always have to work around it.

6.10.3 on the other hand has been flawless for me on every system I've tried it on (which is also why I'm not on the newer ones, since something like .11 or .12 is out).

Got home, MW and POEM have been crunching together happily all day until MW died. Now I've got Collatz running instead, no problems.
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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Actually if you want to edit debts you can. I had a script manually setting my debts every 30 minutes when I ran 6.4.7.

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd_tool

It has to run in the same directory as your manager (so if you make a batch file make sure the batch file moves context to the right directory).

It won't stop it from running projects though, since the scheduler is broken in general. Changing any debt impacts every project, so don't be surprised if constantly manually changing it on one starts impacting others.
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KWSN imcrazynow · Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:45 pm Post subject:

Thanks Sir J! I'll give it a shot tomorrow. Rough day today and i'm wiped out. Going to bed now.
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Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

Yeah, when it was done for LHC, it was done to set LHC to the maximum debt that can be owed a project or something pretty dang close, so that if it ran just LHC for years, it could never pay it back Laughing

This was I guess before they had tools to set something up as a backup project; but does essentially the same thing :p That would be overkill though if one doesn't intend to only run Milky work :p

Oh, and if you were mentioning clients to me, I'm not running 6.4.7; but rather 6.10.7... ATI cards (even if it didn't care about my radeon 9600, are pretty much a no-go on the last release client; hence when I got what was the latest pre-release at the time, etc No idea what John is running beyond what's been mentioned in thread; though I have taken the opportunity to attach POEM, since Milkyway isn't issuing work now...
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Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

OK, slight update. It looks like I might be running into the same thing he is; though with the project down there's still the over-riding project down message so nothing will report or request new tasks.

However after adding POEM, it doesn't request new tasks, on suspending it, it does/attempts to report old ones as well. Either way it attempts to report old tasks. I could try the now latest beta version to see if it's just POEM with milkyway on 6.10.7, or if it's been addressed. This said the project isn't exactly in a working state either way, as it isn't getting anything back from the scheduler other then "project is down".
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