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Project Of The Month August '09 - Yoyo
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 7:17 pm    Post subject: Project Of The Month August '09 - Yoyo Reply with quote

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yoyo@home brings existing distributed computing projects to the Boinc world using the Boinc Wrapper technology. yoyo@home is currently running the following sub-projects:

ECM is a program for Elliptic Curve Factorization which is used by a couple of projects to find factors for different kind of numbers.

Muon simulates and designs parts of a particle accelerator. You are simulating the part of the process where the proton beam hits the target rod and causes pions to be emitted, which decay into muons.

evolution@home represents the first and so far only distributed computing project addressing evolutionary research. It simulates different types of populations and focuses on the analysis of human mitochondrial DNA. Read the original Evolution@home website for more information.

The distributed.net client and runs Optimal Golumb Ruler work units. This project searches for the shortest Optimal Golumb Ruler of the length 27.

http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/

So after hooking up with the project and of course joining KWSN, log into your account and check the settings to determine which of the above sub-projects you want to crunch. Looks like we're set up for all of them by default...

Yoyo has been one of the more confusing projects for this iron helmet crew, so if you still have questions, Yankton appears to be our resident expert. Post your questions in this thread, or PM Yankton, or check the Yoyo boards here:

http://www.rechenkraft.net/phpBB/viewforum.php?f=66
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my stash of Yoyo tricks ready to go. Sir LanDroid no start of month stats yet so we know are starting position?

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it ain't August yet, but I guess we should do that anyway...

Current status:
23rd place with 2,251,552 points.
19th place RAC with 8,220.
3,694 points yesterday.

Gotta go, it really is time to "walk the dog". <= Yoyo humor.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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29 July 2009
Cruncher: faster OGR cores
I updated the Cruncher application to the latest distributed.net version. The new x86 clients contain three new OGR cores. Depending on your CPU type, the new cores may provide a significant speed improvement over the cores used in previous client versions. In the ppc versions some bugs were fixed.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm tired now..... I will deal with this tomorrow Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The optimized apps are included in the project, so you don't have to do anything.

Another big gotcha is the "Evolution" subproject does not checkpoint, at all. What's that mean to you? It means that if you close BOINC while that WU is running you lose all progress on it and have to crunch it all over again. Just keep that in mind. If you find yourself suspending BOINC a lot or shutting it down at night then make sure you uncheck Evolution in your options at Yoyo.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I have attached one box #ni-1

All Yoyo all the time, all 4 projects.......... #ni-1
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First stop on this train: NORDLICHTER! And WE'RE just gettin' STARTED! Twisted Evil

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0 0 0 22 Nordlichter 2,470,604 8,031 55,904 353,521 9,642 29
0 0 0 23 The Knights Who Say Ni! 2,317,793 37,184 84,381 325,755 11,775 27

A little over 150K to claim #22 (I think it'll be just a bit over a week!)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoyo is sharing time with SIMAP on my 2 home machines for the next few days, as is always the case at the beginning of the month. My 2 work machines only had whatever queued Enigma units were left and will then be 100% Yoyo.

My PS3 is happily churning away on Yoyo too, making this the first time I've had all my machines on the same project at once heh.

Either way BOINCStats says 5,800 yesterday for Yoyo, so this should be a good month. Should be hitting 7,000 or more a day once everything else is cleared out.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just canned ECM WUs - I've had a couple or three error out at ~2¼ hours, they're very long, don't play nicely with MW and they use nearly ½Gb memory, making the machines verrry sluggish. #Mad

But that still leaves three other projects to run. #ni-1
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muon and Cruncher OGR both seem to play well with MW, at least on my systems. Maybe (not sure yet) more so Cruncher OGR as the W/U's are longer. I'll try to update more later.
Anybody notice the new addition yet? I haven't had time to play around with it yet. I wanted to get it going on the POTM right away. I may try to tweak it a bit tomorrow if I get the chance. I have to go pick it up from work. I goofed off a bit on friday and put it all together.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really? That's odd, I've only done 10 ECM WUs but they're worth a fair bit each at about 298 credits. No errors on any WUs yet, from any of my machines including the PS3 and my home system running MW. Any idea on what caused the error?

As for memory you can just set BOINC to only use a certain amount. I've got at least 3GB in every machine (6 in my i7, 4 in my two Core2s, 3 in the X2 3800) and have it set to 60% while in use, 95% idle. Swap usage is the one that'll kill you, and I drop it from the default to 25% on every machine.

Then again my MW setup is totally painful and custom, but seems bullet proof now. I've run it with Enigma, Einstein, SIMAP, QMC, Rosetta, and now Yoyo without any more problems. The only problem I've had is Enigma and QMC, Enigma somehow caused all my QMC WUs to run to 100% fine and then compute error. Grr!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since that last post, I've had another 5 ECM errors. I aborted all but the running units, and all but one crashed (all at the 2¼ hour mark).

Never mind, there's plenty of work with the rest.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 2:42 pm    Post subject: Updated 08/10/09 Reply with quote

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So far our RAC hasn't adjusted enough to get a good gauge on who we'll be fighting with. So far these teams are for sure in the crosshairs, and a newcomer is pushing hard to make US a victim!

Must be 3DNow's PoTM too, as they jumped on the 1st up from a measly 20,000/day to 200,000/day+. Yikes. Ours is still climbing, but we need more firepower to hold them off!




That said, let the stat whoring begin! And I must say this is a good start!

Aug. 01 · 2,334,370 shrubs (+47,357) · 13,033 RAC (+3,617) · 35 team members (+2) · 23rd place (+0) · 15th place by RAC (+3)
Aug. 02 · 2,415,837 shrubs (+81,468) · 19,479 RAC (+6,446) · 35 team members (+0) · 23rd place (+0) · 11th place by RAC (+4)
Aug. 03 · 2,502,371 shrubs (+86,534) · 25,953 RAC (+6,474) · 35 team members (+0) · 22nd place (+1) · 9th place by RAC (+2)
Aug. 04 · 2,614,227 shrubs (+111,856) · 33,564 RAC (+7,612) · 35 team members (+0) · 22nd place (+0) · 9th place by RAC (+0)
Aug. 05 · 2,746,156 shrubs (+131,930) · 42,820 RAC (+9,256) · 35 team members (+0) · 21st place (+1) · 8th place by RAC (+1)
Aug. 06 · 2,853,296 shrubs (+107,140) · 48,428 RAC (+5,607) · 36 team members (+1) · 21st place (+0) · 8th place by RAC (+0)
Aug. 07 · 2,914,082 shrubs (+60,786) · 50,368 RAC (+1,940) · 36 team members (+0) · 20th place (+1) · 6th place by RAC (+2)
Aug. 08 · 3,000,234 shrubs (+86,152) · 53,663 RAC (+3,295) · 36 team members (+0) · 21st place (-1) · 4th place by RAC (+2)
Aug. 09 · 3,084,700 shrubs (+82,292) · 56,527 RAC (+2,864) · 36 team members (+0) · 21st place (+0) · 4th place by RAC (+0)

*Updated 08/04/09 - Finalized 08/03 stats, added tentative 08/04 stats, updated graph to add a new victim.
*Updated 08/05/09 - Finalized 08/04 stats.
*Updated 08/08/09 - Added stats for days 5 and 6.
*Updated 08/10/09 - Added stats for days 7, 8, and 9. Added UK BOINC victim.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al Dente wrote:
I've just canned ECM WUs - I've had a couple or three error out at ~2¼ hours, they're very long, don't play nicely with MW and they use nearly ½Gb memory, making the machines verrry sluggish. #Mad

But that still leaves three other projects to run. #ni-1


Same here...the MP versions of the ecm subproject are machine killers...they took down my i7, and 3 of my quads...

Now I remember why I don't like yoyo....

From the yoyo forums:



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One ecm task should need about 1.8GB of RAM




Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Which is why you set memory limitations in BOINC, duh. All of my machines are crunching all Yoyo sub-projects without any issues. The memory limitations stop more than one ecm WU from running at a time, and it fills in the rest of the cores with OGR and EVO units. Mixed with collatz on my i7 and MW on my Q9300. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerWA wrote:
Which is why you set memory limitations in BOINC, duh. All of my machines are crunching all Yoyo sub-projects without any issues. Mixed with collatz on my i7 and MW on my Q9300. Twisted Evil


But it is more fun to bitch and complain and run off in a huff with knees bent in silly positions.... Shocked


Seriously, I don't have time to test it out this week as I am going on a little va-ca to Eagle River this weekend, and am shutting the pharm down from CPU tasks on Wednesday (NNT and run 'em out), and GPU on Friday morning, and the pharm will be quiet by noon.
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Ohhhh does that mean I can try to sneak by you? Sweeeet. Need more machines, STAT!

Heyyyyy, I just had an idea. Why don't you just sign your pharm over to me and I'll keep an eye on it for ya while you're gone. Cool
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JerWA wrote:
Ohhhh does that mean I can try to sneak by you? Sweeeet. Need more machines, STAT!

Heyyyyy, I just had an idea. Why don't you just sign your pharm over to me and I'll keep an eye on it for ya while you're gone. Cool


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