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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: i7 Shrubbing Impressions Reply with quote

So, seriously thinking about getting an i7, but need help getting pushed over the edge. Okay, I'm already over the edge, but those that have an i7 already, what are your impressions, shrubbing-wise? The way I see justifying it (as if justification is needed) is that eight shrubs going at the same time, versus just four is double the production, right? However, I can get a quad core for less than half the price of an i7, so if I got two of them, I would save money (albeit, not that much really). But, shrubbery-for-shrubbery, is there an increase in production per unit?

Sorry if this has been discussed already but I haven't seen anything about it.

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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might do better to factor a good gpu card in like the ATI 4890. If you're looking for sheer number of shrubs that is.
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Might do better to factor a good gpu card in like the ATI 4890. If you're looking for sheer number of shrubs that is.


Yeah, was thinking a nice nVidia 260 (I'm an nVidia fan) would do well in there. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 04, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An excellent choice!

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ni + Hi Sir Shoob !!

Are you going to build your own box ? If so , then a server dual cpu socket set up is maybe the way to go . Half the power consumption of 2 boxes , just one HD and DVD etc , half the space required , and a V8 set up (2 off quad core cpus ) has a lot of bragging rights Cool )
Of course a server class MoBo is way more expensive (~£300-£600 GB pounds here ) , but will OUTPERFORM any 2 off i7 hands down using an Intel Xeon cpu setup (Look at Sir Furry Marks and Sir Brian in Wieferich to see !) .

Hope this helps , but half the power consumption must factor in there today .

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some dual I7 boards available too.
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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure if I'll build or not yet, probably depends on which way I go. I can buy a quad-core for about $450 but the lowest i7's I've seen here are about $1000, which I could probably build cheaper, but I wouldn't want to build it so cheap that other things (MB, memory, etc) are bottle-necking the CPU...then there's the whole cooling thing...hmmm, pre-built is actually looking good right now.

Decisions, decisions...

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PostPosted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're content to not upgrade it later, you can snag an I7 with a decent gpu from dell's refurb. $700 range. Not the best specs but should do the job for the price. I've been considering it myself but I finally decided to get an elliptical machine instead.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welp, I finally did it! I took the i7 plunge and opted to build my own, instead of a pre-built. Here are the brief specs:

CPU: Intel i7 920 2.66 GHz
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme-1366
MB: Asus P6T Deluxe V2
Mem: 6GB DDR3 Triple-channel
Video: BFG nVidia GeForce GTX 260 MaxCore OC 896MB GDDR3
Case: Antec 900
OS: Vista Ultimate 64-bit

It's currently just a "shrubber" but, when Windows 7 comes out, I'm going to replace Vista with Win7, add another 260, and it'll be my main. It's currently shrubbing GPUGrid and OPS...hope to see it's influence soon.

Now all I need is a name for it...hmmmm...
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What did ya get for power?
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shoob wrote:
Welp, I finally did it! I took the i7 plunge and opted to build my own, instead of a pre-built. Here are the brief specs:

CPU: Intel i7 920 2.66 GHz
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme-1366
MB: Asus P6T Deluxe V2
Mem: 6GB DDR3 Triple-channel
Video: BFG nVidia GeForce GTX 260 MaxCore OC 896MB GDDR3
Case: Antec 900
OS: Vista Ultimate 64-bit

It's currently just a "shrubber" but, when Windows 7 comes out, I'm going to replace Vista with Win7, add another 260, and it'll be my main. It's currently shrubbing GPUGrid and OPS...hope to see it's influence soon.

Now all I need is a name for it...hmmmm...


That's scary. Except for the CPU Cooler and the OS we've got the same i7 builds. I went with a Noctua NHU12P and XP 64 since I already had it. Be careful with the Ultimate 64. That's the least stable OS I own. Every time there's a windows update the thing starts locking up on me. #ni-1

I guess you could start a poll to see what your fellow knights think you should name it.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What did ya get for power?


Corsair TX650W (52A on +12v rail)

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I didn't see this thread earlier. I've been shrubbing with an i7 for 2-3 months. You'll definitely see a performance increase overall, but I've found that when running with 8 "cores" they each run slightly slower than my Q6700's. But, like you said, you've got 8 of them instead of four. I'm using a 650W Corsair power supply and it handles 2 GTX 260's and a 9600 GSO. Just make sure you keep those fans going full blast if you start adding video cards and particularly if you run it in 8 core mode. You definitely want to monitor the temp.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Sorry I didn't see this thread earlier. I've been shrubbing with an i7 for 2-3 months. You'll definitely see a performance increase overall, but I've found that when running with 8 "cores" they each run slightly slower than my Q6700's. But, like you said, you've got 8 of them instead of four. I'm using a 650W Corsair power supply and it handles 2 GTX 260's and a 9600 GSO. Just make sure you keep those fans going full blast if you start adding video cards and particularly if you run it in 8 core mode. You definitely want to monitor the temp.

Have fun #ni-1


Thanks for the good advice...I'll set the fans on high! Smile Good to know you're running 2x260's on your 650W. I was worried I'd have to upgrade the PSU when i add the second.

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Adam Alexander wrote:
Sorry I didn't see this thread earlier. I've been shrubbing with an i7 for 2-3 months. You'll definitely see a performance increase overall, but I've found that when running with 8 "cores" they each run slightly slower than my Q6700's. But, like you said, you've got 8 of them instead of four. I'm using a 650W Corsair power supply and it handles 2 GTX 260's and a 9600 GSO. Just make sure you keep those fans going full blast if you start adding video cards and particularly if you run it in 8 core mode. You definitely want to monitor the temp.

Have fun #ni-1


Thanks for the good advice...I'll set the fans on high! Smile Good to know you're running 2x260's on your 650W. I was worried I'd have to upgrade the PSU when i add the second.

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The only time I've had PSU issues is when I tried to run an 8800 GT with the two 260's and when I tried to run a Coolermaster V8 CPU cooler.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess you could start a poll to see what your fellow knights think you should name it.


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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm not sure if I'll build or not yet, probably depends on which way I go. I can buy a quad-core for about $450


Try Microcenter

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but the lowest i7's I've seen here are about $1000, which I could probably build cheaper,


Microcenter again.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ooo. That's cheaper than newegg. How are they on reliability and customer service?
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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shoob wrote:

I'm not sure if I'll build or not yet, probably depends on which way I go. I can buy a quad-core for about $450


Try Microcenter

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but the lowest i7's I've seen here are about $1000, which I could probably build cheaper,


Microcenter again.

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lol...that's exactly where I went! I almost always have a good experience with them. They're pretty knowledgable. The only thing that the rep said that I had to correct was when she asked about which MB I was interested in and I told her a dual-SLI and she says, "Well, dual means SLI..." I had to hold back a comment as I have two tri-SLI systems already. Smile Other than that, she made the rest pretty easy.

As far as it being cheaper, well, I think they're prices are good. I "could've" built i cheaper than a pre-built at $1000, but I would've had to sacrifice other areas that I'm too stubborn to pass up. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yankton wrote:
ooo. That's cheaper than newegg. How are they on reliability and customer service?


I've always had great service from Microcenter, but haven't used them for mail order. The 18 minute deal they advertise is for real and their sales people are usually pretty knowledgeable.
plus $229 for an i7 is hard to pass up



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