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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm trying Ubuntu as well using the wubi setup. I have it installed but can't get my wireless to work. I'm using the windows driver through ndiswrapper, but the silly thing won't light up. There are no linux drivers for my usb wireless adapter in case you're wondering. So right now i'm in a dual boot setup. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dagger wrote:
I'm trying Ubuntu as well using the wubi setup. I have it installed but can't get my wireless to work. I'm using the windows driver through ndiswrapper, but the silly thing won't light up. There are no linux drivers for my usb wireless adapter in case you're wondering. So right now i'm in a dual boot setup. Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Which version of Ubuntu? I never had success getting my wireless to work with 8.10, but the 8.04 install worked right away.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Which version of Ubuntu? I never had success getting my wireless to work with 8.10, but the 8.04 install worked right away.


It's 8.10. I'll see if i can downgrade to 8.04. You don't have a choice using wubi.

[Edit] Found a wubi 8.04, so i'll give that a shot. [/Edit]
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

8.04 wasn't installing, so I grabbed 8.04.1 and installed that instead... still no luck with my wireless even though the drivers are setup and show as working with the device present.
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might have to go back to a vmware setup once again. but if thats the case when i might as well forget about it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dagger wrote:
8.04 wasn't installing, so I grabbed 8.04.1 and installed that instead... still no luck with my wireless even though the drivers are setup and show as working with the device present.
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might have to go back to a vmware setup once again. but if thats the case when i might as well forget about it.


I had that problem then realized I had a setting on my router to not let any new wireless devices attach. Could it be something that simple?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ndiswrapper is fussy. You are copying the drivers to your hard drive before attempting to install them right? Install from CD is problematic at best.

Are you using the ndiswrapper package or did you install it seperately?

Make sure the files you copied include only 1 .inf and 1 .sys file (maybe a .bin as well). If you have more than one of each file, you have too many

Check this out as well if it isn't the above or your router:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used 3 deb files for this.. ndiswrapper-common 1.52, ndiswrapper-utils 1.9 and ndisgtk 0.8.4-1. installed them in that order using sudo dpkg -i installed the windows driver [asks for inf only] using the windows driver installer that shows up in the admin menu after installing ndisgtk. forgot to do the ndiswrapper -m i think it is to set it to load at bootup. i think theres other ways to do this, but i haven't played with linux since FC4, and that was with a wired eth0 setup. As it stands right now i can't even add a wireless connection into the network.

[edit] sry.. usb wireless isn't even reading any networks in my area, it's like it's not powered, should be picking up at least 4, and a print server, yet 8.04.1 reads device and states that it's present. [reply to AA/edit]
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hm. Dags, I have no idea why your wireless wouldn't be working. I'll read through the posts again at a more suitable hour of the day when the old brain is working. *yawn*

Anyhoo, I'm now using 8.10 and it's working like a charm. Installed from a disc image that my son had. I wasn't going to worry about it but for some reason my wireless cut out in 8.04 and I couldn't get it working again. I probably did something because I'm always fiddling around with this and that. Embarassed

Now, for those who like Ubuntu but are a little cranky about MS Office not working on it etc...don't bother downloading Wine to run Windoze programs. I had absolutely no success at all.

Download Virtual Box instead! #ni-1 If you download the OSE version through the repository, you won't have USB support. If you download from Virtual Box, you can download the version with USB support.

I've got XP installed in VB, running Office XP, AVG, wireless working so can access the net through it when needed, getting the Windows updates. I did have the OSE version installed and changed over to the other today. You need to install the VB guest additions too, so that there is full mouse and keyboard integration.
It is great! It's like having two computers in one without having to reboot.
You can have both running on the desktop and just switch between them. It seems to be working really well so far, but I guess it would be different if you were trying to run intensive 3D games on the guest (Windows). Then it probably wouldn't work so well. But for running office and uploading the uni assignment word files it was great.

#ni-1

You can also access files and drag and drop from folders on one OS to the other but there is a little bit of a trick to it.
If anyone decides to give VB a go, I can give you a step by step on that one.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle wrote:
Now, for those who like Ubuntu but are a little cranky about MS Office not working on it etc...don't bother downloading Wine to run Windoze programs. I had absolutely no success at all.


I think the idea of Open Office is to not need MS Office, though I found out that "Base" definitely isn't ready for prime time (absolutely no match for Access, except for the very simplest things). I had good luck being interoperable with Excel and Word, with the Open Office UI being pretty close to Office 2003.

There is a commercial version of Wine that is supposed to support games, and also Office 2003. I think you can even pay them to adapt it to specific packages, though I think that would take a lot for Office 2007. Some games (e.g. Guild Wars) are supposed to work fine with the open source version of Wine.

Your comments about VB are well taken. I'll have to remember that if I ever decide to go that route.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have taken the leap.

I have installed wubi per Sir Brian's recommendation and Perhaps I missed something as nobody else seems to have had this problem.

I downloaded Nvidia drivers for 64 bit Linux 180.51 and also Boinc but when I try to run them I get the Message "Could not open the file /home/username/Desk...ix-x86_64-180.51-pkg2run.
gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.

What have I done wrong or forgot to do?


Edit: Wait...Open with other application/ open with a custom command
well that didn't work............

Ok I went Got the directions from Boinc. It seems to be working, can I use the same folder for boinc regardless of which operating system I am using? or will I have to choose to run boinc in one or the other?

Well I can see this is gonna be a long learning experience Sad
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would use completely different directories. The different operating systems use different applications, and I'm not sure what would happen if two were trying to shrub the same thing.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well this has been a Major PITA. I can't get the Manager to recognize Cuda and I spent 5 hours trying to upgrade the video driver, and Failed Miserably.

I know that Ubuntu has much better security because of making the root off limits but North Korea has great security but you wouldn't want to live there.

Having to type these arcane commands correctly make me think of the bad old days before Windoze 3.1. At least then you could type "dir" and get a hint.

I am sorry but this is not going to threaten Microsoft's dominance of Operating Systems. This is still "Not Ready for Prime Time"

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To top it off, Now I am getting BSoD's in windoze.... 6 today so far,
It could just be a Coincidence Confused
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Papa Smurph wrote:
Well this has been a Major PITA. I can't get the Manager to recognize Cuda and I spent 5 hours trying to upgrade the video driver, and Failed Miserably.

I know that Ubuntu has much better security because of making the root off limits but North Korea has great security but you wouldn't want to live there.

Having to type these arcane commands correctly make me think of the bad old days before Windoze 3.1. At least then you could type "dir" and get a hint.

I am sorry but this is not going to threaten Microsoft's dominance of Operating Systems. This is still "Not Ready for Prime Time"

Bummer Sad


To top it off, Now I am getting BSoD's in windoze.... 6 today so far,
It could just be a Coincidence Confused


That sounds just about like my experience trying to set up GPUGrid in Ubuntu. Instead I just moved all my CUDA cards to an XP box.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, that is the reason I wanted Ubuntu. No reason to run 32 bit XP on a dedicated shrubber. I don't even have a monitor, mouse or keyboard hooked to it.
If i put all 3 9800's in that case there may be a fire. Shocked

Oh Well, I am Hooked. the Aqua wu's I downloaded look like they will finish in less than 2 hours on Ubuntu. Compare to ~25 hours on XP. I guess it will only run when I am home and trying to figure this out.

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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Papa Smurph wrote:
Damn, that is the reason I wanted Ubuntu. No reason to run 32 bit XP on a dedicated shrubber. I don't even have a monitor, mouse or keyboard hooked to it.
If i put all 3 9800's in that case there may be a fire. Shocked

Oh Well, I am Hooked. the Aqua wu's I downloaded look like they will finish in less than 2 hours on Ubuntu. Compare to ~25 hours on XP. I guess it will only run when I am home and trying to figure this out.

#ni-1


Wow, that's quite an improvement. I might have to give it another shot.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

36 min on each of 4 WU's and 27.9 to 30.1 percent complete.....Mabey only 1.5 hours.
I wonder if the credit will be the same?

2 hours to 2 hours 9 min. 125 to 133 credits.

64 bit Vista 18.5 hours 417 credits.


Hmmmmm....Let me think about it for a while Confused
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can re-enable the root account on ubuntu fairly easily if you see some reason to do so. Installing the cuda drivers should be fairly straight forward. Does the boinc manager see the cuda devices?
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yankton wrote:
You can re-enable the root account on ubuntu fairly easily if you see some reason to do so. Installing the cuda drivers should be fairly straight forward. Does the boinc manager see the cuda devices?


That's the problem I ran into when I tried it. Boinc didn't see the CUDA devices.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Papa Smurph wrote:
36 min on each of 4 WU's and 27.9 to 30.1 percent complete.....Mabey only 1.5 hours.
I wonder if the credit will be the same?

2 hours to 2 hours 9 min. 125 to 133 credits.

64 bit Vista 18.5 hours 417 credits.


Hmmmmm....Let me think about it for a while Confused


That's a bit of a no-brainer.
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PostPosted: Sat May 02, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yankton wrote:
You can re-enable the root account on ubuntu fairly easily if you see some reason to do so. Installing the cuda drivers should be fairly straight forward. Does the boinc manager see the cuda devices?


That is a Big Negative, Sir. Boinc sees no Cuda Devices. I am running 180.44 drivers and the Boinc version from GpuGrid. 6.4.somethin'

I looked all over and found at least 8 or 10 different fixes, none worked for me...... Confused

Mabey Sir Brian is having more luck #ni-1
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