KWSN Orbiting Fortress

PhastPhred · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:22 pm Post subject:

I've turned off any more D/Ls of the SHA-1 WUs, and await further instructions, Cap'n...

Idan · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:36 pm Post subject:

Adam Alexander · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:48 pm Post subject:

Hopefully, SHA won't be on the ballot. If you look at the team stats, it seems that folks have backed off early. I'd like to see us have it where a PoTM skips the next month's ballot.
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PhastPhred · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject:

While that sounds good for our own planning, it'll also give the competition an opportunity to gear up against us, no?

LanDroid · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject:

OK here's a revised list, need feedback quickly so I can post it! (Possibly tomorrow?) Forgot about one problem: there is an upper limit to the number of items a poll can have. I don't know what that number is, but it definitely will not allow the entire list of projects. Can anyone contact the admin to find out if this can be increased? Otherwise I'll have to make decisions on my own when posting.

Projects added to the list from last month are in bold. I had left off Seti before, partly for the above reason and partly because about 50% of our total already goes there. But the more I think of it, the more I believe Seti must be POTM sometime in order to unify the entire team on one project! Ni!

Malaria Control, Simap, Lattice and LHC are off the voting list because work is intermittent, agree? SHA-1 is also off... Although listed, Yoyo (crunching for another team?) and Superlink (intermittent work, d-base crash?) are questionable in my mind, for what that's worth... Embarassed

Sudoku is also on the list, but I'm taking it off if the poll limit isn't increased for reasons I already stated. Basically I'm asking for help in deciding what to delete if the poll limit can't be increased. Perhaps we should delete all non-Vault projects and see if all that fits in a poll? (I doubt it will...) Without feedback, I'll probably just look at the team RAC and delete projects that few are crunching, see my sig below...

Also listing V = Vault project, only a few that aren't...

I would also like to add a "Stomp Factor". This would be a rating of how likely we are to overtake teams in that project, something like the following. Need some help analyzing this, it could take a fair amount of work to do properly. Or perhaps we could just ID the best candidates and list "Stomp Factor = High"?

Stomp Factor
0 = We're solid, but probably can't move up
Low = We might move up 1 place with some luck
Medium = Could move a few places
High = Oh yeah, we're gonna steamroller a whole lot of teams on this one! (And we might lose more ground if we don't!)

Maybe we could also include what place we're in on each project?

Revised list for April's vote:

Seti V
Einstein V
Climate Prediction V
Rosetta V
Cosmology V
Milky Way V
World Community Grid V
ABC V
Spinhenge V
QMC V
Prime Grid V
Poem V
Aqua
Docking V
Leiden Classical V
NQueens V
Mind Modelling
Magnetism
uFluids V
Recitlinear Crossing Number V
Sztaki V
Yoyo V
Sudoku V
SuperLink@technion V
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Adam Alexander · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject:

Yankton · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject:

Seeing as we can't run superlink as it wouldn't have work for a month, maybe we could organize it into several small groupings of 2 projects each, making sure the sporadic ones are grouped with consistent ones as well as making sure ones with long WUs are mixed in with ones with short WUs. That way there's more diversity, we can cover more, and those with a single core wont' get bored crunching the same WU day after day, etc.

Just a thought.
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Sir Papa Smurph · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject:

Sztaki V--I just Dl'ed a Wu the other day...72 hour benchmark on a 9850 quad core. This would be a Killer for slow machines.

Yoyo V-- I refuse to give credits to another team

Sudoku V--Big work units. It also has long return dates ( 1 Year) so if you want to shrub it you must shut down other projects.

Cosmology V-- Down now, No idea when it will be back up...

Prime Grid V--Lets just wait till the Challenge

World Community Grid V-- Credits suck

Seti V--The team already does monstrous amounts of work in this. Most Knights don't know anything else

Einstein V-- Second most popular project in Bionc.

Milky, Rosetta, NQueens, Not bad....

I don't have any personal experience with the others. Let some one else have at these.....
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LanDroid · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:04 pm Post subject:

That's great info, Sir Smurph. Maybe that will help us whittle the list down a bit?

OK here's a revised list adding rank and my assessment of the Stomp Factor. Please let me know if the Stomp Factor helps, hurts, or is inaccurate. Do the rankings help? Would either affect your vote?

I deleted all non-Vault projects. Also deleted Cosmology (server dead) and SuperLink (no work).

Updated list for April vote:

Seti - Rank 4 Stomp Factor Zero
Einstein - Rank 16 Stomp Factor Medium
Climate Prediction - Rank 10 (couldn't locate Stomp info)
Rosetta - Rank 19 Stomp Factor Low
Milky Way - Rank 21 Stomp Factor Low
World Community Grid - Rank 96 (couldn't locate Stomp info)
ABC - Rank 25 Stomp Factor Zero
Spinhenge - Rank 10 Stomp Factor Low
QMC - Rank 40 Stomp Factor Medium
Prime Grid - Rank 39 Stomp Factor High
Poem - Rank 33 Stomp Factor High
Docking - Rank 16 Stomp Factor High
Leiden Classical - Rank 16 Stomp Factor High
NQueens - Rank 13 Stomp Factor Medium
uFluids - Rank 19 Stomp Factor High
Recitlinear Crossing Number - Rank 22 Stomp Factor High
Sztaki - Rank 12 Stomp Factor High
Yoyo - Rank 20 Stomp Factor High
Sudoku - Rank 5 Stomp Factor Medium

On Yoyo, what does the following team ranking mean? Is it listing only non-Boinc points? I thought all Boinc points went to some Evil German team? Should we delete Yoyo for the reason Sir Smurph mentioned? As far as I'm concerned, if we do run Yoyo it would have to be 100% non-Boinc so KWSN receives full credit.

http://www.rechenkraft.net/yoyo/top_teams.php?sort_by=total_credit

Adam Alexander · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject:

Good summary Sir LanDroid. The rankings and stomp factor are very helpful. #ni-1

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Yankton · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject:

I made a mistake, looking closer - Retchenkraft does not get points for yoyo work. There's a team called yoyo boinc wrapper which gets it. yoyo boinc wrapper is not team participating in the vault.

I don't know if that would make yoyo acceptable to those not wanting to contribute to rechenkraft by running yoyo on boinc.

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Killerrabbit · Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject:

We need an official POTM poll made so we can all record our LOONEY votes in private.

Ni
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Idan · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:33 am Post subject:

Yankton · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:57 am Post subject:

A good stomping sounds like fun!

As long as it's not us getting stomped.

Poem does sound really good right now though.

#ni-1

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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:57 am Post subject:

Time for the Poll, Sir Landroid.... we only have 9 days till april....

#ni-1

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Idan · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject:

I think this sums it pretty well:
From the main page of POEM: http://boinc.fzk.de/poem/

Sir Papa Smurph · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:31 pm Post subject:

Sir Papa Smurph · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:33 pm Post subject:

Damn, Idan.... You beat me to the same punch Wink

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