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mohrorless Mail Order Goat Bride


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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 4:15 am Post subject: Boinc Stats Question |
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I guess I missed it, or I have completely forgotten what it's about. COuld someone explain to me what the "Cup Points" column is all about on BoincStats? _________________ Fetch me the Holy Hand Grenade!
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KWSN Im Not Dead Prince


Joined: 10 Apr 2007 Posts: 710 Location: East Tennessee
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:38 am Post subject: |
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Boinc Stats admin is toying with a new way of determining points. It is not a replacement of the existing point system, just a way to more fairly grade. I believe this is being done mostly to "adjust" for high credit projects and projects that have optimized apps.
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"As most of you know cross project credit parity (for the combined stats) is a bit out of sync lately, with new projects popping up which grant generous amounts of credits or rogue optimized apps that do nothing more than inflate credit. Some people care, some don’t, some are all for it, and all groups fight over it. In my opinion it makes the combined stats kind of meaningless, so a solution is needed.
Another problem is that new users or teams almost have no chance to get top ranked. With the solution I came up with, they can be number one.
I came up with a new way to calculate credit and generate combined stats in addition to the existing combined stats.
The current way of doing combined stats will not disappear!
I call the new credits “points” and BOINCstats will use the points in the BOINCstats World Cup.
How the World Cup works:
1: The total credit generated by a project in the current month is calculated.
2: For every team and user the credit for the current month within that project is calculated
3: The contribution to the total credit is calculated as a percentage
4: This percentage is multiplied by the number of active teams or users of that project
5: And then we have World Cup points
Example:
Project output this month: 1000000 credits
Team XyZ contributed 15000 credits, which is 1.5%
There are 132 active teams, so 1.5*132 = 198 points
Ranking is based on the points.
By using this kind of calculations I hope to increase cross project parity while also taking into account the size of a project.
For combined stats, the points of the projects are summed.
Every month will be a cup on its own. This means, every month another race to the top!
Every year the points of all months are summed resulting in the final ranking for that year."
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Mildew KWSN ArchBishop


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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:09 am Post subject: |
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So if I get say 431 points, how will I know if my cup is half full or half empty?  _________________
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KWSN Im Not Dead Prince


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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Is it a Grail shaped cup? _________________
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Thanks!
We must light the grail light to distract the other teams! _________________ Fetch me the Holy Hand Grenade!
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Killerrabbit Major Oblivion


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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:54 am Post subject: |
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Or distract ourselves.
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:33 am Post subject: |
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mohrorless Mail Order Goat Bride


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CHEEZBURGER!!!! _________________ Fetch me the Holy Hand Grenade!
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PhastPhred Prince


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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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You kan haz cheezberger
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mohrorless Mail Order Goat Bride


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John Galt 007 wrote: | Jeez...how is a guy to compete?? |
Got me. Ii am lucky to be holding my RAC around 2K, not like some of us that are around, let's pick a random #, say 46K! _________________ Fetch me the Holy Hand Grenade!
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Sir Furry Mark KWSN ArchBishop


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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:45 am Post subject: |
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mohrorless wrote: | John Galt 007 wrote: | Jeez...how is a guy to compete?? |
Got me. Ii am lucky to be holding my RAC around 2K, not like some of us that are around, let's pick a random #, say 46K! | 2K seems perfectly reasonable to me - I say everyone should have 2K...  _________________ (Sir Furry - Occasional member of the Migratory Coconuts)
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mohrorless Mail Order Goat Bride


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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:17 am Post subject: |
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Sir Furry Mark wrote: | mohrorless wrote: | John Galt 007 wrote: | Jeez...how is a guy to compete?? |
Got me. Ii am lucky to be holding my RAC around 2K, not like some of us that are around, let's pick a random #, say 46K! | 2K seems perfectly reasonable to me - I say everyone should have 2K...  |
It's getting harder to maintain that 2K though...  _________________ Fetch me the Holy Hand Grenade!
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, 2k just isn't enough anymore... I remember when getting 1k meant I had a very good day. Now I need 5-6K just to stay even......
So, would I be correct in thinking that this Cup thing is something I can safely ignore...?  _________________ a.k.a. Licentious of Borg.........Resistance Really is Futile.......
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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I think so. They seem to reset it daily, monthly and yearly. What good is that. You can't even find any standings on it. _________________ Fetch me the Holy Hand Grenade!
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