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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Congrats Jerwa! Reply with quote

Ok, not truly a brag but Sir JerWa just entered the top 100 in the team for Seti. I've been tracking him for awhile as I intend to pass him at some future date, so Im plotting my taunts Smile.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, hadn't noticed myself. I only look at the team over-all standings hehe.

You've got until November or December to catch me. After that I'll be adding a Q6600 (or something better if prices keep going down) and even if only one core is dedicated to SETI it will do better than the 600/day this machine is doing.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm probably out of luck then. My main shrubber is down at the moment so I'm actually loosing ground on you and I was only gaining a few hundred a day even when all was good. I was figuring about 2 months before my system spazzed so even if I get back up and running the instant I get back from vacation next week I'll probably get into spitting distance of you just as your new system comes on line.

On the flip side were contemplating purchasing another system for my wife and Im debating between a dual or quad on that system at the moment.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eaving wrote:

On the flip side were contemplating purchasing another system for my wife and Im debating between a dual or quad on that system at the moment.


LOL - get the quad, and dedicate 3 cores to BOINC, she'll never know the difference #ni-1
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

*Laughs* I'm still technically the resident geek in the house but she does have a masters degree that is partially computer based. Its an art degree in abstract painting and digital manipulation so she at least knows her way around the machine even if she mostly leaves the specs to me. Basically the reason I am debating is that the dual core I am looking at is slightly faster on a per core basis than the quad core. Obviously for shrubbing purposes the quad will almost always win, but the bulk of the time she is using the machine the slightly faster dual would probably benefit her. When it actually comes time to render a movie obviously the quad trumps the dual, and thats when things will really matter so I am currently leaning towards the quad. When all is said and done the total system cost will dictating the decision as much as anything else does.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rendering apps have been some of the earliest to jump on board the multi-core bandwagon. Not much will truly make good use of a quad, but I bet that app is one of them (might require an update tho).

It's not hard to get ahead of the quad core for core though. Last time I checked the E6750 was down to $194.99, and at 2.66GHz it's faster than the $279.99 Q6600 (2.4 GHz). The next quad up, the Q6700 (2.66GHz) is still price prohibitive at $549.99, but you can get into the E6850 (3.0 GHz dual core) for $299.99. Penryn stuff is due in October or November at the latest, so who knows what that will do to cost.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerWA wrote:
Rendering apps have been some of the earliest to jump on board the multi-core bandwagon. Not much will truly make good use of a quad, but I bet that app is one of them (might require an update tho).

It's not hard to get ahead of the quad core for core though. Last time I checked the E6750 was down to $194.99, and at 2.66GHz it's faster than the $279.99 Q6600 (2.4 GHz). The next quad up, the Q6700 (2.66GHz) is still price prohibitive at $549.99, but you can get into the E6850 (3.0 GHz dual core) for $299.99. Penryn stuff is due in October or November at the latest, so who knows what that will do to cost.


1) Hey JerWA- I bet you can smell that 1M mark! Very Happy
2) The Q6600 is the best "bang for the buck". I have one easily clocked to 2.8 GHz on air that is pulling in almost 2800/day on Cosmology@home. I've been running Windoze XP x64 on it with 1 GB of ram (ran out of $), another 1 GB of ram should show up today, hopefully that will make Bill G happier.

[Side Rant]: Why is it that:
Windoze, Intel Q6600= uses 1 GB real mem + 64 MB of paged mem
Linux, Intel X5150 x 2= uses 678 MB real mem + 0 MB paged mem
both running 4 threads of Cosmo.
Also Windoze has 568 threads running where Linux does that same job with 116 threads running. Bill & M$ are running a lot of junk I don't want, but can't turn off (dial-up support, DRM support, etc).
[end rant]

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, it's been a long standing joke that isn't a joke about Windows poor use of resources. I know this dates myself a bit, but back when Windows 3.1 was new, someone ran some memory analyzers on it to see what it was doing. One of the more amusing/interesting/terrifying (depending on your viewpoint hehe) things they found was a routine running something like 6 times a second to see if you had pressed a certain key combination.

Vista is a great step backwards for Windows. It's heavier on resources than ever, forces hardware vendors to change their devices to support it (a first, even for Windows), is even more closed-source than before as a response to the still-laughable security flaws, and has more "features" built in that you can't disable or even interact with than "features" they're trying to sell you on.

All I know is that on the security front, they've already hacked the TCP/IP stack to remove the half open connection limit that plagues XP (limited to 8 in XP, 3 in Vista!). The supposedly closed core processes, and disallowing system hooks, fails to provide security for more than a month. Go figure, 100,000,000 programmers vs Microsoft and MS still thinks they can only be secure by hiding the code. <sigh>
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good spot.

and well done.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yo.... I heard something about Intel dropping the 6x50 line as they were having some big problems with them. Anybody got the scoop on that?

Edit: apparently it is just with Intel motherboards. They don't allow for complete usage of the memory slots or something like that.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohiomike wrote:

[Side Rant]: Why is it that:
Windoze, Intel Q6600= uses 1 GB real mem + 64 MB of paged mem
Linux, Intel X5150 x 2= uses 678 MB real mem + 0 MB paged mem
both running 4 threads of Cosmo.
Also Windoze has 568 threads running where Linux does that same job with 116 threads running. Bill & M$ are running a lot of junk I don't want, but can't turn off (dial-up support, DRM support, etc).
[end rant]


What version of Windoze? Vista is worth about a 20% performance hit running all the DRM. I'm pretty sure that they were doing some Vista-type stuff in XP SP2
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually the hit isn't as bad any more, as long as you have good drivers. The problem was (mostly) drivers it turns out, and a lot of people have regained the lost ground with the latest round of updates. Don't get me wrong, it's still a resource pig, and all these updates are doing is closing the gap in performance between an XP and Vista box of the same specs. As far as I can tell, there's nobody actually running faster, they're just running less slower haha.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You +GO+, d00d! I'm headed youyr way, so WATCH OUT!! ( 0 ^ 0 )
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerWA wrote:
Actually the hit isn't as bad any more, as long as you have good drivers. The problem was (mostly) drivers it turns out, and a lot of people have regained the lost ground with the latest round of updates. Don't get me wrong, it's still a resource pig, and all these updates are doing is closing the gap in performance between an XP and Vista box of the same specs. As far as I can tell, there's nobody actually running faster, they're just running less slower haha.


"less slower" - Exactly! ROFL
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