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Lloyd M.
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 Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 11:00 pm Post subject: Comin' for ya', Sir Cracked! |
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Sir Cracked of the Mind -
I am actually within shouting distance of you, in the team standings, in Einstein.
I know that's a lot of qualifiers, and it's good to be able to sort of distinguish myself in something for once! 
Now if I could just get this doggone room to cool down, I could go back to my "banzai" OC (2.7+ gHz vs 2.2 stock), instead of the more conservative 2.4+ gHz OC that runs so much cooler, largely because it doesn't require any extra voltage.
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Sir Cracked of the Mind
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: |
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I was wasting time running that stupid climate prediction thing, gave up and just looked out of the window...so back to slow ahead...
All that effort & Sweat you put in, and this is just a bog standard of the shelf model. |
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: | I was wasting time running that stupid climate prediction thing, gave up and just looked out of the window...so back to slow ahead...
All that effort & Sweat you put in, and this is just a bog standard of the shelf model. |
I never do "off the shelf", though this is my first venture into overclocking.
What it really needs is a cooler-running, dual core processor. It will be a while before I can swing that, though.
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Sir Cracked of the Mind
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| Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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I have a duel core, this is it!
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: | I have a duel core, this is it!
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Ummm... OK
Last time I checked, I had moved up a bunch of places, and you seemed to have moved clear out of sight!
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Sir Cracked of the Mind
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| Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:19 am Post subject: |
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| Oh! dear, and you though you were doing so well..... me waving in the distance. |
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: | | Oh! dear, and you though you were doing so well..... me waving in the distance. |
Ummm... since when was six places "from a distance"? If I'm reading this right, my overtake is one day:
http://www.boincstats.com/stats/user_stats.php?pr=rosetta&st=100&ti=198#185
And I haven't even gotten my Opty yet! 
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: |
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| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: | | That was a whole week ago, you expect me to stay focused for a whole week, come on now I'm a knig-it thinking at all is a bonus thinking about the same thing for seven day! |
What can I say? I honestly thought I had sent a reply earlier, suggesting that you put down the sign, and I somehow managed not to submit it or something.
Is that all you got? 21 stinking places? Last I knew, I had 330+ credits pending in Einstein, and the totals you link may not include the WU I returned last night, and most certainly won't include the one I'll be sending back some time tomorrow.
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Sir Cracked of the Mind
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| But I see from the stats boxes I'm still in front and producing more per day than you... |
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: | | But I see from the stats boxes I'm still in front and producing more per day than you... |
Was one of those days the day I passed you on Rosetta? In classic ingomy, you dropped one place, just to make room for me to come out one place ahead of you.
I you'll recall, that's what this brag is about. Your feeble attempts to change the subject will boot youi nothing!
[edit]As Mark Twain said, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics. I wouldn't put too much faith in the BOINC Stats boxes if I were you. [/edit]
So, if you're actually outproducing me on Einstein (which I seriously doubt), give it about a week, and we'll see.
[edit] as I write this, I have 644 credits pending, and another 322 that will be done tomorrow (though they mey not be uploaded until tomorrow night). When I finally get credit for all this, my RAC will be a lot higher than the paltry 115 I've gotten credit for so far [/edit]
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:36 am Post subject: |
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You have to remember that RAC is a very long weighted average. Very long being more than 60 days. I.e. if you stopped BOINC today, it would take more than 60 days for your RAC to hit 0. Likewise, unless you produce very near the same credits every day, and have been for over 60 days, your RAC will be changing constantly. Going to the project in question and looking directly at your stats will give you a truer sense of your short-term performance.
As an example, last month I made a full charge on SIMAP, every machine doing nothing but that. My RAC according to BOINCStats never got over about 500, because it had been zero for almost a month at that point. By comparison, the short-term stats on the SIMAP page itself showed my RAC at over 2.5 times that. 
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| JerWA wrote: | You have to remember that RAC is a very long weighted average. Very long being more than 60 days. I.e. if you stopped BOINC today, it would take more than 60 days for your RAC to hit 0. Likewise, unless you produce very near the same credits every day, and have been for over 60 days, your RAC will be changing constantly. Going to the project in question and looking directly at your stats will give you a truer sense of your short-term performance.
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Cool. For one thing, now I know that someone else is reading this thread
Frankly, most of my rhetoric directed towards Sir Cracked is just knightly bluster. When I first got started, it took a while for my main rig to get much past 200 RAC, even though it's capable of a lot more than that (especially once I started overclocking).
The fact of the matter is it will take me a while to catch him in Einstein, and I have to be careful or I'll lose my lead in Rosetta in the process.
Anyway, I haven't looked at my "BOINC statistics for the world!" stats for a while. When I was checking it regularly, I was noticing that there was a surge to 1000+ credits about every third day, which would boost my RAC a bit for that day (at least as far as they're concerned).
The good news is, I got my new Opty 170 installed last night. Call me simple, and I get a real kick out of seeing two BOINC tasks running at the same time. The server is even more fun, because it has four CPUs, (though it's a lot slower). What can I say?
The bad news is I'm not doing well with the Artic Silver I bought to go with the Opty. I know it's good stuff. I even downloaded the detailed, pictoral directions. I'm having problems getting the right amount applied, and I'm too impatient to shut it down long enough to cool down all the way to room temperature (like you're supposed to). Between that and the high ambient temperatures we're experiencing, it's running too hot to OC for any length of time.
This is kind of frustrating, because it actually has a slightly lower thermal power rating than the San Diego, and the stock Opty HSF looks like it should be more effective than the ThermalTake I was running on the San Diego (2 heat pipe circuits vs just one, and a lot more mass to boot). With comparable ambient temperature, the Opty at stock speed is running about 8 degrees C higher than my more stable OC on the San Diego (about 10%, with no voltage changes required).
I was able to move the Opty up to 2.2 gHz no problem, just by raising the clock (and not making any other adjustments), though I couldn't leave it there because of how hot it was running.
I'm seriously considering going back to the cheap heat sink paste I was using. While it might have been mediocre, at least it was at least that good immediately!
Still I'll take two cores running at 2.0 gHz versus 1 core running at 2.7+ gHz any day!
I have power supply issues (long story), so I may not be getting my San Diego going again for a while. I should be able to get the Sempron 2600+ going in the next couple of days. When it was running Windoze 2000, with BOINC as a service, it was just about as fast as the OC 3700+ San Diego (running in graphics mode), at least on Rosetta (heh, heh).
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Sir Cracked of the Mind
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| Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Sir Cracked of the Mind -
I am actually within shouting distance of you, in the team standings, in Einstein.
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| Quote: | Was one of those days the day I passed you on Rosetta? In classic ingomy, you dropped one place, just to make room for me to come out one place ahead of you.
I you'll recall, that's what this brag is about. Your feeble attempts to change the subject will boot youi nothing!
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My attemps to change the subject, how about you changing the project.. |
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Lloyd M.
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| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: |
My attemps to change the subject, how about you changing the project.. |
Wot? The "changing the project" you say?"
Ummm... come back here! I'll bite your ankles!
Besides, as of the time of this writing, your lead has shrunken from 21 places to 19. Not to mention that I still have 600+ credits pending, and I should be finishing another 600+ credits by tomorrow afternoon, with another 300+ late tomorrow night or early the following morning. And I'm already creaming you in "position in sign up date stats" (11 vs 23)
You: http://www.boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=einstein&id=256297
Me: http://www.boincstats.com/stats/user_graph.php?pr=einstein&id=255965
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Sir Cracked of the Mind
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: What an Effot |
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Can't you see I have my "I care face" on "Not" you huff and puff and install your Ned Flanders "opty d'opty" machine and race around over cooking your CUP's and under cooooooollllllling your Flip-Flops and tweeking your flangle buckle, you'll get your self all tired out there's a good boy, then we can all have a quiet night....
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: Re: What an Effot |
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| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: | Can't you see I have my "I care face" on "Not" you huff and puff and install your Ned Flanders "opty d'opty" machine and race around over cooking your CUP's and under cooooooollllllling your Flip-Flops and tweeking your flangle buckle, you'll get your self all tired out there's a good boy, then we can all have a quiet night....
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ROFLMAO! Touche'! Such scathingly astute observations, Sir Cracked.
BTW, congratulations on moving up one place in your "position in sign up date stats".
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| Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Lloyd M.
| Quote: | | BTW, congratulations on moving up one place in your "position in sign up date stats". |
See, I don't even know what this is about, Stats are just ghosts that drift through my world every now and then, I shrub for the good of knight kind and the betterment of mankind, to bring light to the dark corners of knowledge's understair cupboard, you know that corner where the spiders web has been for ages, kicking your butt is just a happy side effect.
I see computers are your job, don't worry I'm sure you will make some friends one day, perhaps you might even meet a nice girl, wouldn't that be nice for you.
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Sir Cracked of the Mind
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Well done you have passed me, but it's not a big shock really seeing as you have 4 machines  Llyod M at his Super Farm
and me only has this one little one.
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Lloyd M.
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Lloyd M. wrote: |
BTW, congratulations on moving up one place in your "position in sign up date stats". |
| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: |
See, I don't even know what this is about,
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A certain number of people attached to the project the same day you did, and you had moved up in those standings
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Stats are just ghosts that drift through my world every now and then, I shrub for the good of knight kind and the betterment of mankind, to bring light to the dark corners of knowledge's understair cupboard, you know that corner where the spiders web has been for ages... |
You know, I've thought about that, and it's my naturally competitive nature, combined with statistics, that has prompted me to work on building what I will eventually feel justified in calling a "farm"; and do some relatively serious shrubbing in the meanwhile.
Besides, whatever my motivation, the shrubs still count just the same.
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...kicking your butt is just a happy side effect.
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Hmmm... Maybe "kicking your butt" means something different in British english. Sir Winston Churchill did say that we are two peoples divided by a common language, after all.
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I see computers are your job, don't worry I'm sure you will make some friends one day, perhaps you might even meet a nice girl, wouldn't that be nice for you.
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Low blow, Sir Cracked. Besides, I think my wife would take a rather dim view of that idea (me meeting a "nice girl").
| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: | Well done you have passed me, but it's not a big shock really seeing as you have 4 machines
Llyod (sic) M at his Super Farm
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I must admit, that's an hilarious picture! How did you find it?
One of the four scarcely counts (A Celeron 400 with 128 MB of RAM and a whopping 5GB hdd). In fact, it's a lot closer to the abacus you picture below than not.
For that matter, I haven't even powered that thing up in several weeks.
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and me only has this one little one.
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Huffington Post. That explains a lot.
Anyway - yah right, what was that you said?
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All that effort & Sweat you put in, and this is just a bog standard of the shelf model.
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Ah, that's it! Well, "bog standard" it may be, but that's about like saying that you have a "bog standard" Porsche Carerra 4, seeing how your computer is a C2D E6600 - perhaps not the fastest machine in the county, but still wicked fast. At least if you drive it with the parking brake off (see below).
And then there was:
| Sir Cracked of the Mind wrote: | Can't you see I have my "I care face" on "Not" you huff and puff and install your Ned Flanders "opty d'opty" machine and race around over cooking your CUP's and under cooooooollllllling your Flip-Flops and tweeking your flangle buckle, you'll get your self all tired out there's a good boy, then we can all have a quiet night....
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Hmmm... Well, I'll grant that a 2.0 gHz Opty that doesn't want to OC until I can cool it better wouldn't hold a candle to a C2D E6600, all things equal; but they most decidedly aren't.
You shoulda' stuck with XP, Sir Cracked. Vista is pretty much a DRM engine with a little capacity left over to act like an operating system - to the tune of about 25% more overhead than XP (which isn't exactly a paragon of efficiency to start with). Here's the gory details: A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection Maybe you can find a computer professional to translate it for you. That is, if you can find one you haven't pissed off with your snide remarks about their social skills.
Maybe your should reach down and release the hand brake on that Carerra!
The jury is still out on my Linux box that's now up and running (for about $110 US, including brand new mobo and PSU), using the A64 3700+ I replaced with the Opty. With no BOINC graphics and hardly any OS overhead compared to XP (and virtually nothing compared to Vista), I wouldn't be at all surprised if it ended up being comparable in performance to one of the cores in your C2D, especially once I OC it.
For that matter, the 3700+ was already doing a little more than half of your BS-RAC, even when it was running with XP! (albeit with anywhere between a moderate and fairly hefty OC most of the time)
Hmmm... There was something else back there, too. Oh, now I remember!
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and your focus here has opened up your weak side at SETI....and left you exposed to de-feet..ha!ha!
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I take it you were kidding there. Or perhaps knightly bluster from a master of the craft
Anyway, not only is just one of my computers completely smoking you on SETI (as of this writing 14,437.03 total credit/327.60 RAC vs your 7523/104), it's the least powerful machine I'm currently running (an ancient IBM Netfinity server).
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