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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerWa it looks like you are screaming in on the half mil mark yourself there.
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Indeed indeed, crossed it this morning.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he's running scared ........he's started a reverse attack on me in Docking now....





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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I was getting a bit bored; you seem to have given up with Spinhenge.....




... and as for that rather laughable feint in Malaria...




But I must admit that I'm more interested in this thicket of kNi!ghts whose time has come....




...and it helps just a tad that Docking gives quite generous credit - I reckon the current shubbers in the "Dentery" should give me about 11½k/day.


It all helps to while away the time until next weekend, when I should be able to order the bits for my (first Laughing ) Q6600 shrubber.
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are the devil! <~ that's you!

I've been borging machines left and right. Sadly, all of them combined is about 2/3rds of a single Core 2 machine.

I should have some new machines coming online soon, and will probably be about equal to your current farm around the time you upgrade again. Pardon me while I throw a tantrum.

Since I can't beat you, my only recourse is to submit your name on the alien sign up sheet.

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I do my best .... #evil

I've got 11 machines on the go at present, and the current plans are to add one more about every 4-6 weeks up to 20 shrubbers (although heat constaints may limit me to just 16) - and from #12 on they should all be QUAD cores.

I must admit to being a bit anti-Intel/pro-AMD, but at the moment Intel's got the upper hand, so I'll go with them until AMD introduce their quads next quarter.

I haven't told Sir Fart yet, but NTL (my cable supplier) have got a special offer on an upgrade from 4Mb to 20 Mb at the moment, and it'll only cost a couple of £'s extra for the next year, so I may finally be able to escape his exhaust emissions in Majestic12.

BTW, I'm still smarting a bit after SIMAP ran out of work just as I'd started accelerating; never mind, there should be some more work next weekend, so start watching your rear.

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I haven't told Sir Fart yet, but NTL (my cable supplier) have got a special offer on an upgrade from 4Mb to 20 Mb at the moment, and it'll only cost a couple of £'s extra for the next year, so I may finally be able to escape his exhaust emissions in Majestic12.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BTW, I'm still smarting a bit after SIMAP ran out of work just as I'd started accelerating; never mind, there should be some more work next weekend, so start watching your rear.
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Indeed, I planned that little operation very well I must say. I will again be putting everything on SIMAP, but, just as before, I will let them run down their current projects only after SIMAP starts giving work. Even so, it should be enough to climb a few more spots in the team, even after losing one to you. SIMAP credit is better than most projects, so that's a nice bonus too.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerWA wrote:
You are the devil! <~ that's you!

I've been borging machines left and right. Sadly, all of them combined is about 2/3rds of a single Core 2 machine.

I should have some new machines coming online soon, and will probably be about equal to your current farm around the time you upgrade again. Pardon me while I throw a tantrum.

Since I can't beat you, my only recourse is to submit your name on the alien sign up sheet.


I hear that. I have similar caliber machines, but far fewer of them. I can't imagine 1000 RAC, let alone 11,000 like Al Dente is doing.

I am very thankful that Al is on our team! Very Happy

Congrats on passing 500K. I'm sneaking up on 50K.

Lately, in the interest of supporting the team, I've been concentrating on Rosetta. My AMD rig was crossed up with SETI for about the first three weeks of the month, anyway. SETI seemed to think I had received a bunch of WUs that I hadn't. I finally got a few more WUs some time this week. My poor, bedraggled Celery is crunching away on some, to the tune of about two days per WU. Very Happy

I've figured out a way to put my son's Sempron 2600+ to work on BOINC right away. Running without graphics (as a service), its production on Rosetta compares favorably with the my A64 3700+ San Diego (with graphics enabled, I just don't want to give up my pretty pictures).

Speaking of which, I've managed a moderately respectable OC of 2717mHz (vs 2200 stock) on my rig. I just copied the voltages from the preset "Turbo" mode (2376 mHz) on the ABIT OC guru software, and experimented with upping the clock. It's a little touchy, and I might have to back down, given the ambient temperature in the room (which might moderate a bit once I take my son's Sempron rig back downstairs to his room).

Is it possible that Rosetta makes the CPU generate more heat than, say PrimeGrid? I really need a better HSF. Am thinking about the Astec Vapochill or even the Ultra ChillTec, though the latter is a bit pricey. For about that kind of money, I could upgrade my rig to an X2 chip with lower wattage, and get a mobo and whatnot to combine with what I have lying around to build another rig for the San Diego CPU I'm using now.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two TEC solutions I really like, but agree they're not cheap. That first one is interesting, you'd just have to make sure you installed it so the fan is blowing towards the back of the case (i.e. exhaust fans). Haven't seen any reviews of it, but I'm going to go digging to see how it actually works.

I still can't clock my XP 3k up more than a few %. I put it back up to 170 earlier today (from 166 stock) and it ran for a few hours and puked, so I clocked it back down to 168. <sigh> That system is very ready to be retired.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerWA wrote:
The two TEC solutions I really like, but agree they're not cheap. That first one is interesting, you'd just have to make sure you installed it so the fan is blowing towards the back of the case (i.e. exhaust fans). Haven't seen any reviews of it, but I'm going to go digging to see how it actually works.


The Astec is just a fancy heat pipe setup, and they only cost about $45. I've seen several positive reviews. The Ultra is a combination TEC and heat pipe. I saw several reviews, almost all of which were positive, with the exception of uneven whirring of the fan. The way it works is, the TEC stays turned off, until the CPU gets to a certain temperature, then the TEC kicks in. If the TEC fails completely, you still have the heat pipe part. There's a controller that fits into a drive bay, which controls fan speed and TEC voltage, displays temps, etc..

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I still can't clock my XP 3k up more than a few %. I put it back up to 170 earlier today (from 166 stock) and it ran for a few hours and puked, so I clocked it back down to 168. <sigh> That system is very ready to be retired.


Well, that sucks. Not that I actually know anything about overclocking, because I don't - could it be the memory?

I found a some pretty neat directions on how to OC AMD chips (though I think they were talking about A64 chips). There was one that seemed to have a pretty systematic way of testing how fast each part of your rig is, so you can come up with tha fastest stable combination.

Of course, I'm a fine one to talk about that. I can't go straight to my banzai OC using the OC guru. I have to go to the preset "Turbo" first, then to my OC. I seriously doubt that windows would boot under my OC. Everything else seems just fine, though. I also have an OC setup that's about halfway between the "Turbo" and my fast one.

What's crazy about that fastest OC is that last 300mHz seems to add about 6C CPU temperature, at least when the ambient temp is high.

I imagine you already know what you need, and you just have a recalcitrant chip. Let me know if that's not the case, and I'll get those links to you.

One factor that entered into my buying the ABIT mobo I'm using is the reputation for rock-solid stability and excellent OC capability. The buses lock, and everything is variable by minute increments over a wide range. I was originally going to get a Venice core CPU, and ended up with the San Diego, which has a much faster stock speed, and much bigger cache memory.

Next up is an X2 chip, especially since they are less than I paid for the San Diego, and a lot of them create less heat to boot. I plan to get a cheapie mobo to put the San Diego in, so I can run that too. I figure I can get away with an integrated-everything POS board, and run Rosetta or whatever as a service, with Linux, and I won't care much if I can't OC it.

On a related note, NewEgg is selling socket 754 Venice Core 3200+ CPUs for $40! If I can snag one while they still have them, I plan to get on for my son's rig, and also do the same thing for the leftover Sempron. I should be able to get a socket 754 mobo and some memory for it really cheap.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure what the problem is with that system, it's never been very happy. It's a good motherboard, Abit NF7s, but there is a newer BIOS for it (released in 2004, to give you an idea how old it is lol). The fans are overkill, the CPU cooler is good, the graphics card has a Zalman on it now (the stock fan died recently), so that's good too. The memory is good, but I think it's my problem. I know jack about clocking memory, and I think that's the problem (I think it's good memory, but I can't remember).

I actually have another XP 3000+ CPU sitting in my parts bin, but I don't want to mess with taking the cooler off to find out if it'd be happier or not. I'm not interested in upgrading the system, it would just be throwing money away. Once I get a new system for myself, this E6400 Core2 will replace the XP 3k, which will replace the P4 1.3, which will likely be retired.

Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention. That AeroChill CPU cooler setup has to be installed so that the tubes point up. They use refrigerant in the heatpipes instead of water, so direction does matter (so that they will condensate properly inside the pipes). All the reviews look good, but I'm surprised that 150W is all they say it's good for. The high end copper heatpipe setups are all rated for around 200W without any fancy stuff like that one has.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerWA wrote:
I'm not sure what the problem is with that system, it's never been very happy. It's a good motherboard, Abit NF7s, but there is a newer BIOS for it (released in 2004, to give you an idea how old it is lol). The fans are overkill, the CPU cooler is good, the graphics card has a Zalman on it now (the stock fan died recently), so that's good too. The memory is good, but I think it's my problem. I know jack about clocking memory, and I think that's the problem (I think it's good memory, but I can't remember).


PSU? Also, as far as memory clocking goes, try: http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=327 a good general guide: http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=847481

Again, this is A64 oriented, and some things should apply to the XP. The second link addresses memory first (pun intended)

JerWA wrote:

I actually have another XP 3000+ CPU sitting in my parts bin, but I don't want to mess with taking the cooler off to find out if it'd be happier or not. I'm not interested in upgrading the system, it would just be throwing money away.


I know the feeling.

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Once I get a new system for myself, this E6400 Core2 will replace the XP 3k, which will replace the P4 1.3, which will likely be retired.


Cool.


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Edit: Oh, I forgot to mention. That AeroChill CPU cooler setup has to be installed so that the tubes point up. They use refrigerant in the heatpipes instead of water, so direction does matter (so that they will condensate properly inside the pipes). All the reviews look good, but I'm surprised that 150W is all they say it's good for. The high end copper heatpipe setups are all rated for around 200W without any fancy stuff like that one has.


I'd seen that in the reviews. Niether would pose problem in my case - I've got plenty of room, the heat pipe gizmo is angled (and can be rotated to any orientation), and even my room-heating San Diego is rated at "only" 115 watts or so. I think AM2 Brisbane X2s are only 65W!

I wonder if the problem is that weak-suck fan they put on it. I have considered getting the HSF and putting a good, quiet 120MM fan on it, like: http://www.cyberguys.com/templates/searchdetail.asp?productID=11820 That would probably require fabbing a new fan shroud, because the fan that comes with it is only 80mm. That might be worth it anyway, because the only complaint I saw in any review was how flimsy the fan shroud is.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK Sir JerWA...

my recent attacks on him have paid off.... I've managed to get to put ALL his shrubbing poweron Docking.... so he's ready to take down in every other project out there!!!!


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Yep, you've managed to get me to paint myself into a corner. At current rates, I reckon I've got ~ 4 days on Spinhenge (HoC) and QMC (nathanh, vaguely followed by JerWA); a week on Malaria (Ib Rasmussen), 2 weeks on Proteins (JerWA) and a month on WCG (again JerWA).

In all the excitement, I missed BURP:-


and nearly missed Leiden:-


but both have now been taken care of.

With SIMAP primed for major attack as and when work arrives, I may just have to give you best on Docking, for a little while at least; rest assured revenge will be sweetly savoured at the appropriate moment.

#ni-1 to you all, wishing you the best of shrubbing in your futile endeavours.

BTW, I've just noticed that this Docking lark has moved me up to #3 in the KWSN shrubbing rate stakes here, so a whole bush of to you.
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#ni-1 to you all, wishing you the best of shrubbing in your futile endeavours.

yep, and here's to your's...Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil





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BTW, I've just noticed that this Docking lark has moved me up to #3 in the KWSN shrubbing rate stakes here, so a whole bush of to you.


and moved the team up to ninth from 16th Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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Sitting at home on a dank and miserable Bank Holiday, I started thinking (always a pastime fraught with danger) in a vain attempt to ignore some of those "little jobs" that always seem to rear their ugly heads on days like this.

After a considerable time, interrupted only by a slight whirring and buzzing from between my ears, I came to the conclusion that this little Docking spat is extremely silly, bringing all that shrubbing power to bear on just one project.

But after a little while I had another thought: isn't that what the kNi!ghts are best at, being extremely silly?

So let battle continue unabated.

Expect 1,000,000 up by the next Bank Holiday at the end of August (if you've the resolve to take it that far!!).

I think I'll treat this like an arm-wrestling contest. Apparently the secret to successful arm-wrestling is not to go for immediate victory. Instead, simpy aim to hold your opponent at bay, allowing them to exhaust themselves (or get bored) before suddenly going for the kill.

If anyone goes past me in other projects, well, it's only a flesh wound; I can always catch up another day.

Spoken with the confidence of a fool and loon, no doubt fortified by all that Belgian Beer I've downed to get to #1 in the team and #8 in the world in that extremely silly (but fun) little project.
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PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2007 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al,

On the subject of all on one project, I've been studiously avoiding it myself. My rule, up to this point, has been to aim for at least 250/day on a project and then pick a new project when more machines come online. Some, like Proteins, make that difficult (BOTH cores together on my E6400 are barely managing 250/day for that project). My original plan, when it was just the 3 Core 2 Duos, was one core per project. Now it's more like the output of one core per project, because I've added a lot of older machines.

The loss of my SETI optimized clients has really hurt my daily credits. This machine, crunching half SETI and half Proteins, was doing almost 1,000/day. On just Proteins it's doing 25% of that. Sooo, I think I'm going to shuffle Proteins off to one of my remote systems that's currently on Malaria, just to keep the project going without sacrificing my big machine for it.

The exception to the spread-the-love plan is SIMAP, because it's my only periodical project. It's rather fun to attack it with the entire farm, and the credit rate is very good, so that helps. I disallow new work for all projects as soon as SIMAP work shows up (I may try doing it earlier this time, to see if I can get the queues cleared sooner) and suspend the other projects once they run dry of work. Last time that meant they all spent 48 hours clearing queues before going fully over to SIMAP.

At any rate, it's fun. I just wish I could get some more systems up to present more of a challenge for you (and to boost the teams stats, as well as my own, of course).
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Fully agree on the multiple projects, I generally run 4 to 8 on each machine. But I couldn't resist the chance to really let the farm show what it can do and Docking with it's high credit is the ideal project for that.

I can't understand your lack of Proteins credit; these are my current shrubs per hour figures (the E6400 figures are scaled from my E6300 by the clock ratio - 2.13/1.86GHz)

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ABCbeta   13.39   11.33   12.97
Docking   27.71   25.01   28.64
Einstein  10.47   15.43   17.67
Malaria   10.30   11.28   12.92
Pirates    9.50    8.69    9.95
Proteins  10.22   12.73   14.58
QMC       18.85   24.65   28.23
Rainbow   12.93   15.39   17.62
SIMAP     13.73   18.15   20.78
Spinhenge 12.15   10.74   12.30
Tanpaku   14.59   11.00   12.59
WCG       10.22      ?      ?


So Proteins is giving me much the same credit as Einstein, Malaria & WCG. You should be getting ~350/day/core.

On the value front, AMD wins hands-down at the moment; the current pricing for a 3800x2 is £52 and the E6300 is £105, plus the AMD m/b's tend to be a bit cheaper. Even the 5600x2 is only £115, which is why that was my last purchase. The Q6600 (next weeks new machine) is currently £335, but Intel's July pricing for the new Q6700 will be ~£290, so that should produce quite a powerful beast!!!
(UK retail prices, incl. our dreaded VAT @ 17½%)


#ni-1 and Happy Shrubbing.
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