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A/C Baron


Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Mostly in reality, sometimes in virtual reality
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Hover Squire

Joined: 04 Jul 2004 Posts: 5
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: |
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I have no idea if mine is optimized or not. If anybody tries it out and it works, please tell. _________________
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Javapersona Knight


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Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think I may have mentioned this before, so if I am repeating any of this, excuse me. It might be new for someone.
AFAIK for multiple cores: defintely set up for both.
For Hyper Threading it usually depends on the size of your L2 cache. My experience is that if your L2 >= 1 MB, enabling HT is beneficial. If you have 512k, HT will decrease performance for most projects because the split (~ 512/2 =256) causes too many cycles for swapping at the cost of crunching.
My Xeons that have 512: Not using HT.
My P4's that have 1 MB: Using HT.
Hope that helps.
(Wish I had some dual cores to play with. ) _________________
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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... Stop calling me 'she'


Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2032 Location: Judea, AD33, at a stoning with me mum.
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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: |
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Javapersona wrote: |
(Wish I had some dual cores to play with. ) |
If you do, go for the new conroes (Intel core 2 duos). they so much less power you don't need to run so much cooling and so you don't need to spend a fortune on silent fans......
PS one thing to be aware of wit dual cores if your a games freak, is that not many games are really multithreaded and so will only work on one of the cores.....
so a game may actually run slower on say an AMD x2 3800 compared to an AMD64 3600!!!!.....
but for Shrubbing they're great!
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Sir Magnus Barelegs Knight


Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 34 Location: Durham, NC [USA]
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:14 am Post subject: |
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So now I have to go around and turn HT on when I get to the office today.  _________________ My S@H Profile - KWSN Stats
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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... Stop calling me 'she'


Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2032 Location: Judea, AD33, at a stoning with me mum.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Sir Magnus Barelegs wrote: | So now I have to go around and turn HT on when I get to the office today.  |
be carefull about HT...... i
it only really works well for shrubbing if your CPU has a large (2mb) level 2 cache, as it ends up having to swap the cache out to RAM for each thread, if the Project app uses large variable datasets or codebases. People have seen that 2 HT WU's may actually take longer than 2 non HT WU's on CPU's with 512k or even 1mb of L2 cache........
Ni! _________________ Oh, it's blessed are the meek!, Well I'm glad they'll get something as they have a hell of a time!
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Sir Magnus Barelegs Knight


Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 34 Location: Durham, NC [USA]
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: |
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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... wrote: |
it only really works well for shrubbing if your CPU has a large (2mb) level 2 cache, as it ends up having to swap the cache out to RAM for each thread, if the Project app uses large variable datasets or codebases. People have seen that 2 HT WU's may actually take longer than 2 non HT WU's on CPU's with 512k or even 1mb of L2 cache........ |
podunk only has 1MB cache so I'll have to watch that one. roastbeef on the other hand has 4MB. Both are multiprocessor Xeon boxes. _________________ My S@H Profile - KWSN Stats
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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... Stop calling me 'she'


Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 2032 Location: Judea, AD33, at a stoning with me mum.
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:31 am Post subject: |
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Sir Magnus Barelegs wrote: | KWSN - Sir Brian C....... wrote: |
it only really works well for shrubbing if your CPU has a large (2mb) level 2 cache, as it ends up having to swap the cache out to RAM for each thread, if the Project app uses large variable datasets or codebases. People have seen that 2 HT WU's may actually take longer than 2 non HT WU's on CPU's with 512k or even 1mb of L2 cache........ |
podunk only has 1MB cache so I'll have to watch that one. roastbeef on the other hand has 4MB. Both are multiprocessor Xeon boxes. |
Xeons should be OK.....
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Sir Magnus Barelegs Knight


Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 34 Location: Durham, NC [USA]
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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah I wish Core2Quad were out (and affordable) now.
I'm going to be replacing a number of older slower machines at home (see diodon, tuna, and bluegill) within the next couple of months and it will probably be with a new home-rolled dual Xeon box (dual core each, of course). So MythTV gets the priority on the processors but anything Myth doesn't want can be used for shrubbing. _________________ My S@H Profile - KWSN Stats
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Sir Magnus Barelegs Knight


Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 34 Location: Durham, NC [USA]
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 11:30 am Post subject: |
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OK I've been putting the SSE2 optimized clients on my Xeons today... had to take the BIG multi-xeon box out of the loop for awhile (shrubbing was apparently slowing down the real work it had to do and I got complaints).
I didn't see an optimized client for an Athlon64/Linux though. Is there such a beast? I'm just using whatever comes with Ubuntu Edgy when you apt-get install the boinc client. _________________ My S@H Profile - KWSN Stats
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A/C Baron


Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Mostly in reality, sometimes in virtual reality
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:05 am Post subject: |
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Hover wrote: | I have no idea if mine is optimized or not. If anybody tries it out and it works, please tell. |
Well I did install the hotfix and modify the registry and boot file, but I haven't really noticed any major performance gains afterwards. My computer doesn't start any faster and I notice that programs take the same time to start
I do think that there should be some long-term crunching performance gains after the hotfix is installed though, since it's supposed to correctly calculate an increased target performance state.
Sorry about the late response. I haven't had time to check out the boards lately.
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A/C Baron


Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 198 Location: Mostly in reality, sometimes in virtual reality
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 2:28 am Post subject: |
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Sir Magnus Barelegs wrote: |
I didn't see an optimized client for an Athlon64/Linux though. Is there such a beast? I'm just using whatever comes with Ubuntu Edgy when you apt-get install the boinc client. |
This might be one. Not sure if it's for AMD. |
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