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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: New Earth? Reply with quote

I guess it's a possibility if it wasn't quite so far away.

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It's Earth, but not as we know it

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April 25, 2007 12:28pm
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ASTRONOMERS say they have discovered a "super-Earth" more than 20 light years away that is the most intriguing world found so far in the search for extraterrestrial life.

About five times the mass of Earth, the planet orbits a cool, dim red dwarf' star in the constellation of Libra, the team from the European Southern Observatory (ESO) said.

The star, Gliese 581, has already been identified as hosting a planet similar in size to Neptune, the frigid gas giant on the edge of our own solar system.

The new planet is 14 times closer to Gliese 581 than Earth is to the sun. But because Gliese 581 is so cool, the planet is not scorched by solar radiation. It zips around the star at express speed, making just 13 days to complete an orbit.

"We have estimated that the mean temperature of this super-Earth lies between 0 and 40 degrees Celsius, and water would thus be liquid,'' said lead researcher Stephane Udry of Switzerland's Geneva University.

"Moreover, its radius should be only 1.5 times the Earth's radius, and models predict that the planet should be either rocky - like our Earth - or covered with oceans.''

"Liquid water is critical to life as we know it,'' said Xavier Delfosse, a team member from France's Grenoble University.

"Because of its temperature and relative proximity, this planet will most probably be a very important target of the future space missions dedicated to the search for extra terrestrial life," he said.

"On the treasure map of the Universe, one would be tempted to mark this planet with an X.''

In 1995, two astronomers, also at Geneva, spotted the first extrasolar planet, a term for a planet orbiting a star other than our own. Since then, 227 such planets have been spotted, according to the Extrasolar Planets Encyclopaedia.

Gliese 581 is among the 100 closest stars to us. Its red dwarf monicker comes from the fact that it is only a third of the mass of the sun.

Because such stars emit far less heat, they offer a far greater chance of having planets in the so-called Goldilocks zone where liquid water - and thus the potential for life - can exist.

Even though Gliese 581 offers such promise, it would be impossible for mankind to reach it - or even send an unmanned scout probe - using current technology.

Chemical rockets generate only a fraction of the light speed needed to get there within a human timescale.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone call SETI and have them re-aim the telescope!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

and here also:, what the Beeb has to say (actually, much the same thing):


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6589157.stm

Us SETI shrubbers though, are still processing the backlog from Arecibo. We could get a "WOW" signal from the folk on Gliese 581 - but years hence! But maybe they've been too busy; having a New Year's party every 13 days #Beer
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

13 days is almost enough time to recover from the last one. Do you think they could brew fast enough to do it every 13 days?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess it would mean a birthday for everybody every 13 days too. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle wrote:
I guess it would mean a birthday for everybody every 13 days too. Shocked


Would you have time to keep up the Birthday list? Imagine how crowded the forum would be then. Confused There would have to be a seperate birthday section.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be totally insane! I'm having enough trouble keeping up as it is. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be totally insane! I'm having enough trouble keeping up as it is. Laughing


Actually we could have a birthday section on the forum and have 13 threads in it. Then we just go and post our greetings on the correct day.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wishing you a happy one thousand seven hundred and eighth birthday?

Dear ol' Uncle Ned is pushing three thousand now, but quite clear in his head and still shrubbing away at SETI - We are hoping for a signal from that sun 'Sol' someday - it's said that it has a very small planet (except for a region called 'Texas', which is much bigger). Our scientists think it may have some life on it, though they'd all be so young we could hardly expect them to be intelligent
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think this is a great find! When do we leave?? #ni-1
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we can locate the Enterprise. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annual holidays would be a bit of a pain though. I mean saying you could fairly have two major holidays a day you'd cap at only 26 holidays a year. On the up side Even if you job only closed for 5 holidays a year and you got your normal weekends you only have a 4 or 5 day work year Smile.

OH, annual raises Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle wrote:
When we can locate the Enterprise. Laughing


Which one?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does it matter....although I would rather have Picard than Kirk.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle wrote:
Does it matter....although I would rather have Picard than Kirk.


To summerize.....Michelle prefers

over


I actually wouldn't mind either Enterprise-D or Enterprise-E:

D:

or
E:


I would not mind the Defiant though:


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think maybe you meant:
Or maybe: Or, best yet:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, yes. I would love one of the above mentioned ships. Actually any Galaxy-class will do for me Smile
Voyager wouldn't be bad either.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we can have a choice of ship, I might have go with Voyager but only if we can have this captain...


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Yes! Oh Captain, My Captain Wink
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