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jonnyv · Last edited by jonnyv on Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:58 pm; edited 1 time in total

Found this on Slashdot:
"The New Jersey legislature is considering a bill that would require operators of public forums to collect users' legal names and addresses, and effectively disallow anonymous speech on online forums. This raises some serious issues, such as to what extent local and state governments can go in enacting and enforcing Internet legislation."

The bill itself.

Now, this will likely never become a law, and if it does, it should be struck down as unconsitutional. However, if you live in New Jersey, contact your representatives and tell them to vote NO. I'd rather not have to start collecting names and address of our members as a CYA move in the event that this does become law and we somehow become the test case and lose.
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Killerrabbit · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject:

Can't you just ignore it even if does pass until they try to enforce it?

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jonnyv · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject:

Yes, but:

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BS like that really cheeses me off.

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Elwood · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject:

What in the world does NJ expect to gain from this? My wife moderates a forum for people with sexual problems with their spouse. I can't fathom what a block on anonymous posting would do to that sort of service, much less one's that deal with mental health or substance abuse problems. The internet can be an extrememly valuable tool for people with issues that are embarrasing to talk about elsewhere.
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jonnyv · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:24 pm Post subject:

I'd imagine it has something to do with preventing/prosecuting illegal activities.
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Mr. Snrub · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject:

It has to do with State Assemblyman Peter J. Biondi being a weenie. Posters on nj.com have been giving abuse, free of charge, to politicians and this makes him cry.

http://news.com.com/The+problem+of+thin-skinned+politicos/2010-1028_3-6046090.html

alpha_fruit · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:41 pm Post subject:

Myspace is a good example of why this may become law.

Those guys need some hard lessons as that place is for pedophiles, under age people to cuss, talk smack and drugs. To many people have met up with other myspace twerps and died.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING ON LINE?

I don't like MySpace for any reason.
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jonnyv · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:43 pm Post subject:

That's an even worse reason.

Edit: That's in response to Mr. Snrub's post. However, MySpace isn't a good reason for this to become law either.
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Elwood · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject:

My kids are young right now and their computer is ridiculously filtered, only allowing access to sites that I have whitelisted. When they get a little older, I'll open things up a bit, but will log every single keystroke on machines in their rooms. It's pretty easy to remove the MAC address of the wireless cards from the list in my router, after all! If they try to disable the logging, I'll know and I won't hesitate to remove the priviledge of internet from their rooms.

Myspace is also great place for musicians to meet and show their work. Some of my songs will go up soon. It is not their fault that the site is abused by some people. A little precaution on the part of kids' guardians should go a long way in preventing these shenanigans, while preseving anonymity to those who really need it for sensative topics.
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Al Dente · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject:

Surely this would only apply to NJ residents? Or would NJ-based sites have to collect international real identities?
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jonnyv · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:11 pm Post subject:

The way it's worded, it sounds like it could be applied to any site that's available to NJ residents, but IANAL.
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alpha_fruit · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject:

alpha_fruit · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject:

jonnyv · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:43 pm Post subject:

Um, no....we seems to have completely opposing viewpoints on MySpace, even though neither of us like it. However, that's not a topic for this thread.
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alpha_fruit · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject:

Then remove it. You have my permission to do so.
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Killerrabbit · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject:

How about if we do not want to give up our personal info to the admins?

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A Shrubbery · Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject:

NJ legislature is a bunch of twits, but society in general has lost contact with the idea of parental supervision.

If something bad happens to anyone ever it's someone elses fault.

When you make society so "safe" that people don't have to worry about their own safety, people stop trying and everyone is more at risk. It all comes down to being responsible for yourself and those under your care/supervision.

Laws won't stop bad people from being bad. Bad things happen. Life is unfair, etc. Deal with it and conduct your life accordingly. With that philosophy the world would be a much better place for all of us.
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Mildew · Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: