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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:44 am    Post subject: new DNS for seti Reply with quote

OK alright then

I need assistance, I have not been able to upload/download work units for seti. I believe this is due to Seti making a DNS change (26 july). As this change should propogate thru the Net to the big wide world. I still cant contact them. I have now turned off my machines.

This was after their previously back log issues which also resulted in (my personal pain & suffering) no WU's and some WU's expiring.

So will my ISP eventually update or can I by pass it ? if so how ?

But I will now change my preferences to a larger cache. And got to upgrade one pc and got another one about to go, so the down time was not completly wasted.

Over all in the last 2 weeks or so I have lost about 10 days crunching and about 40 WU's gone down the drain.

Crying or Very sad

on a eclectic note, I'm running

1 G4 imac 10.3.9
1 G4 ibook 10.3.9
1 xp 2800 xp virus
soon to be crunching hopefully

1 xp 2600 either fedora or overclockix
1 xp 1600 either fedora or overclockix (if ever down loads)

gotta find Elvis
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What IP address does setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu resolve to? (just ping it and it should tell you) I'm pretty sure that is the DNS entry that they changed. It used to go across the cogent link but now it goes through berkeley. It should resolve to 128.32.18.173 - if it doesn't then you can override the DNS servers by placing an entry in your hosts file. /etc/hosts in linux, C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts in windows, no clue about mac.

You would add a line that looks like this:
Code:
128.32.18.173          setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu


Of course doing this will cause it to not work again if they ever change the IP address again. But it might help for now.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the returned ping was 128.32.18.173, tried overrideing the DNS as you suggested as well, still no joy and had a wee nosy around the mac but alas Crying or Very sad

so when in doubt reinstall, the scorched earth policy

thanks for your help, MacG most appreciated

#ni-1

hopefully will be shrubbing again soon, but has been quiet with out the 24.7 screaming fans
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well that didnt work, but it felt good
and then it got worse ......

in the downtime I mucked about and got my shubber upgraded and the spread some bits and bobs to build another 2, so a net increase of + 200 hz on my main xp box (the old 2600), and another xp 2600 (old pc) & xp 1600 ( the old bits reassembled plus some)

In the process various drives where formatted and swapped, motherboards a flying and thermal paste on my nose, at the time it was very much fun on a rainy sat afternoon.

So since after the flawed boinc reinstall, the adsl box was next on the list for a jolly good spanking, as it also contains dns info. Alas ..... my password was safely stored on the old box, recently formatted ........

after various attempts, trying to remember said magic words, I appleased my wrath by reseting it, ........ Mad

my main box is now a shuttle SFF hooked up to a 14" TV, great for media, anyway I struggled trying to read the fine print (even at low res) many little mistakes were made as I attempted to remember even older passwords (ISP) Shocked

any way got there ...... felt so nekkid & isolated with no net,

So back to where I started ....... hmm .......

what can I unplug, format or just reak good old havoc apon now .......

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok

started up seti again (downloaded) on 1 mac & 1 pc, it download a WU each talked to seti and updated preferences Very Happy

and all was good Smile

then when I up date, same story cant find the server Mad

so any final thoughts before I resort to another project #evil
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MacG wrote:
What IP address does setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu resolve to? (just ping it and it should tell you) I'm pretty sure that is the DNS entry that they changed. It used to go across the cogent link but now it goes through berkeley. It should resolve to 128.32.18.173 - if it doesn't then you can override the DNS servers by placing an entry in your hosts file. /etc/hosts in linux, C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts in windows, no clue about mac.

You would add a line that looks like this:
Code:
128.32.18.173          setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu


Of course doing this will cause it to not work again if they ever change the IP address again. But it might help for now.


hmm.... setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu is the alias for galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu ... maybe that's the point.....

this is what nslookup tells me:

Got answer:
HEADER:
opcode = QUERY, id = 5, rcode = NOERROR
header flags: response, want recursion, recursion avail.
questions = 1, answers = 2, authority records = 0, additional = 0

QUESTIONS:
setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
-> setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
canonical name = galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu
ttl = 83570 (23 hours 12 mins 50 secs)
-> galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu
internet address = 128.32.18.173
ttl = 83570 (23 hours 12 mins 50 secs)

Non-authoritative answer:
Name: galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu
Address: 128.32.18.173
Aliases: setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu


blinky -> please post what results nslookup gives u on u'r machines -> nslookup -> set debug -> galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu and then 128.32.18.173 to check forward and reverse name resolution
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also please post a copy/paste of the error messages from the "messages" tab of BOINC after an update is attempted.

Hmm... I just looked at the server status page. It seems the scheduler is actually running on kryten.ssl.berkeley.edu (128.32.18.154) so you might want to see what that resolves to for you as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok,
this is on my ibook running 10.3.9 boinc 4.43 seti@home 4.18
got my PC on einstein duty now, had to shrub something

so for the

galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu and then 128.32.18.173

173.18.32.128.in-addr.arpa name = galileo.SSL.Berkeley.EDU.

Authoritative answers can be found from:
18.32.128.in-addr.arpa nameserver = sunspot.SSL.Berkeley.EDU.
18.32.128.in-addr.arpa nameserver = adns1.Berkeley.EDU.
18.32.128.in-addr.arpa nameserver = adns2.Berkeley.EDU.
sunspot.SSL.Berkeley.EDU internet address = 128.32.147.25
adns1.Berkeley.EDU internet address = 128.32.136.3
adns2.Berkeley.EDU internet address = 128.32.136.14

this worked both ways and for kryten as well,

my error message is
(cant paste or copy messages to clipboard from boinc ??)

Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed
No schedulers responded
Deferring communication with project for 54 minutes and 34 seconds

so I nslookup the address its trying to use and could not find it,
nslookup

setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi

Lookup has started ...

;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

So this kinda explains why I could attach the seti project again, but to my feeble computer brain implys that my seti software is looking in the wrong place ? for its updates ..... Confused

now why would it go and do a thing like this .....
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blinky wrote:
ok,
this is on my ibook running 10.3.9 boinc 4.43 seti@home 4.18
got my PC on einstein duty now, had to shrub something

so for the

galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu and then 128.32.18.173

173.18.32.128.in-addr.arpa name = galileo.SSL.Berkeley.EDU.

Authoritative answers can be found from:
18.32.128.in-addr.arpa nameserver = sunspot.SSL.Berkeley.EDU.
18.32.128.in-addr.arpa nameserver = adns1.Berkeley.EDU.
18.32.128.in-addr.arpa nameserver = adns2.Berkeley.EDU.
sunspot.SSL.Berkeley.EDU internet address = 128.32.147.25
adns1.Berkeley.EDU internet address = 128.32.136.3
adns2.Berkeley.EDU internet address = 128.32.136.14

this worked both ways and for kryten as well,

my error message is
(cant paste or copy messages to clipboard from boinc ??)

Scheduler request to http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi failed
No schedulers responded
Deferring communication with project for 54 minutes and 34 seconds

so I nslookup the address its trying to use and could not find it,
nslookup

setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi

Lookup has started ...

;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

So this kinda explains why I could attach the seti project again, but to my feeble computer brain implys that my seti software is looking in the wrong place ? for its updates ..... Confused

now why would it go and do a thing like this .....


ahh no... only do this:
nslookup
set debug
setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu

then post the answer.

if u open that link (http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi) if a browser u should get an answer like this:

<scheduler_reply>
<scheduler_version>468</scheduler_version>
<message priority="low">Incomplete request received. </message>
</scheduler_reply>
<HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV=Refresh CONTENT="0;URL=../"></HEAD><BODY>

You seem to be viewing this page in a WWW browser. Visit the <a href="../">main page</a>.

</BODY></HTML>
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

assuming that "dig" is the same as debug,

Lookup has started ...


; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 23073
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 3, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu. 21985 IN CNAME galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu.
galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu. 21985 IN A 128.32.18.173

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ssl.berkeley.edu. 21989 IN NS adns2.berkeley.edu.
ssl.berkeley.edu. 21989 IN NS sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu.
ssl.berkeley.edu. 21989 IN NS adns1.berkeley.edu.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
adns2.berkeley.edu. 37096 IN A 128.32.136.14
sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu. 20883 IN A 128.32.147.25
adns1.berkeley.edu. 30242 IN A 128.32.136.3

;; Query time: 73 msec
;; SERVER: 10.1.1.1#53(10.1.1.1)
;; WHEN: Wed Aug 3 20:09:13 2005
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 192

tried the same on 128.32.18.154

Lookup has started ...


; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> 128.32.18.154
;; global options: printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

As you can see I am not too sure what i am doing Confused

http://setiboinc.ssl.berekely.edu/ resulted in

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Apache/1.3.31 Server at setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu Port 80

on mt browser

thanks for being patient
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is looking to me like DNS is not your problem. A trace might be helpful. type "tracert setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu" in a command window and see what it gives you.

Also, I think you went to the wrong URL to test the scheduler. It should be http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi not just http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whoopsy daisy

what about this then........

Traceroute has started ...

traceroute: unknown host setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi


Lookup has started ...


; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
;; global options: printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached


so what I dont understand is why boinc/set@home is looking for the server in the wrong place, it used to fine (i didnt muck about with it) & so how do I change it ? with out resorting to precussive maintainence





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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blinky wrote:
whoopsy daisy

what about this then........

Traceroute has started ...

traceroute: unknown host setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi


Lookup has started ...


; <<>> DiG 9.2.2 <<>> http://setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu/sah_cgi/cgi
;; global options: printcmd
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached


so what I dont understand is why boinc/set@home is looking for the server in the wrong place, it used to fine (i didnt muck about with it) & so how do I change it ? with out resorting to precussive maintainence





Confused Confused


ahhh...nono....

only do a traceroute to setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu and paste the results....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hmm I am not very good at this, thanks for the continuing tech support

setiboinc.ssl.berkeley.edu

Traceroute has started ...

traceroute to galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu (128.32.18.173), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 mygateway.xtra.co.nz (10.1.1.1) 6.111 ms 0.893 ms 15.024 ms
2 219-89-160-1.jetstart.xtra.co.nz (219.89.160.1) 59.677 ms 61.387 ms 70.67 ms
3 222.153.220.5 (222.153.220.5) 62.541 ms 163.64 ms 54.99 ms
4 fid-int.tkbr4.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.245.198) 129.337 ms 150.996 ms 85.025 ms
5 vlan-283.tkbr4.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.245.197) 58.725 ms 62.135 ms 68.013 ms
6 pc1-30.tkbr3.global-gateway.net.nz (210.55.202.65) 82.315 ms 59.986 ms 58.067 ms
7 p1-1-0-0.labr3.global-gateway.net.nz (202.50.119.126) 216.957 ms 216.605 ms 215.259 ms
8 so2-0-0-0.labr4.global-gateway.net.nz (203.96.120.102) 216.167 ms 215.364 ms 219.088 ms
9 g11-2-107.core01.lax05.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.11.145) 217.065 ms 214.964 ms 215.342 ms
10 p6-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com (154.54.2.209) 217.545 ms 419.607 ms 225.953 ms
11 p14-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.74) 253.153 ms 358.773 ms *
12 p4-0.core01.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.93) 317.518 ms * 318.161 ms
13 p15-0.core02.sfo01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.70) 244.039 ms 237.496 ms 227.676 ms
14 cenic.demarc.cogentco.com (38.112.6.226) 225.217 ms 225.816 ms 230.733 ms
15 dc-svl-isp--oak-isp-t2.cenic.net (137.164.40.215) 221.111 ms 223.356 ms 228.008 ms
16 * inet-ucb--svl-isp.cenic.net (137.164.24.106) 233.935 ms 227.519 ms
17 vlan193.inr-201-eva.berkeley.edu (128.32.0.74) 224.925 ms 262.622 ms 241.068 ms
18 g6-1.inr-230-spr.berkeley.edu (128.32.255.110) 241.617 ms 227.38 ms 241.12 ms
19 * * *
20 * * *
21 * * *
22 * * *
23 * * *
24 * * *
25 * * *
26 * * *
27 * * *
28 * * *
29 * * *
30 * * *


so um I get to hop 18

18 g6-1.inr-230-spr.berkeley.edu (128.32.255.110) 241.617 ms 227.38 ms 241.12 ms

and then it falls over ........ is that right Confused
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blinky wrote:

17 vlan193.inr-201-eva.berkeley.edu (128.32.0.74) 224.925 ms 262.622 ms 241.068 ms
18 g6-1.inr-230-spr.berkeley.edu (128.32.255.110) 241.617 ms 227.38 ms 241.12 ms
19 * * *
20 * * *
21 * * *

so um I get to hop 18

18 g6-1.inr-230-spr.berkeley.edu (128.32.255.110) 241.617 ms 227.38 ms 241.12 ms

and then it falls over ........ is that right Confused


hmmm... right.....

u'r only 2 hops away... Confused

21 164 ms 164 ms 164 ms g6-1.inr-230-spr.berkeley.edu [128.32.255.110]
22 166 ms 165 ms 165 ms solen.ssl.berkeley.edu [128.32.18.209]
23 167 ms 167 ms 165 ms galileo.ssl.berkeley.edu [128.32.18.173]
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fantastic, so how do i encourage those last 2 little hops, big stick or kind words and if so what words



Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

odd... from work I don't get all the way either but my RPC to the scheduler seem to go through just fine. At home I DO get all the way to galileo so I'm not sure what is going on here...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been keeping a eye on the seti forums and tech news as well,
there a few threads with the same problems as mine, but no actual fix, along with some confusement as well,

so for now I guess no seti .....Crying or Very sad

but I have put 1 pc on einstein duty, will get around to more but I would prefer to shrub for seti

once again thanks for help


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

I just downloaded some seti WU's , while this may seem a small thing, it appears I may be I may be shrubbing again ........

#ni-1

I wonder if they will get home afterwards ..... Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wohoo!

I'm still not sure what was wrong but hey, as long as it works... Quite possibly a combination of DNS throwing you off for a day or two and then problems at berkeley and the new moon... Or maybe it was the shuttle. They just landed today. They were in orbit jamming your seti downloads! I just know it!

Glad to hear you are back!

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