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Morbus · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 10:25 am Post subject: Don't get it, P4 is weak?!

Ok, I'm having a rather interesting problem here, one of the stronger computers on my network, an almost brand new 3ghz p4 is having problems with boinc. Symptoms, fans are running moonshot rpms (like the system is working really hard), and it tends to lock up on the boot...Alot.

My settings are parallel with all 5 computers, including an old 1.8g p4 with only 256mb of ram, and none of the others seem to be having problems.

All systems are running kaspersky, lavasoft, spybot, and all have completed a full scan showing clean.

One thing of note, the computer in question has been physically relocated to another room and a wireless network card installed, but my laptop takes no issue with boinc and wireless and it is a slightly slower pentium.

Any ideas?

KWSN Sir CADCAM · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 12:42 pm Post subject:

What brand and model of motherboard are you running?
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ToeBee · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject:

Well the newer P4s DO run pretty hot. But the lockups shouldn't be happening. Maybe the thermal compound between the CPU and heatsink wasn't applied as well and so the chip is getting even hotter than usual. Then again I believe P4s have thermal throttling built in so that if they get too hot the automatically slow down. Could also be some bad RAM or motherboard. Who knows. Aren't computers fun??

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Sir Prize · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject:

Sir CadCam

"Cîam en des sterko" "Havi ne malesperi personoj kiu havi ne kompreno humuro"

Better esperanto:

"C^iam en la sterko" "Ne havu malesperaj personoj kiuj ne komprenas humuron"

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Sir Prize · Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:13 pm Post subject:

Actually, better translation of latin is:

Homon s^ercan ne malesperu
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Morbus · Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject:

Not sure about the motherboard, it's a rig we customized in a hurry from the Dell website, good specs, but not familiar with the specifics on the hardware. I'll get in there and get rid of the factory heatsink unit and replace it with aftermaarket and some arctic silver. Just looked at it the other day, strange design, it's a heatsink with a plastic shroud funneling airflow from a case fan in the back (looks ineffective as hell). I'll post up the results.

KWSN Sir CADCAM · Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:32 pm Post subject:

The reason for checking the type of motherboard is that both ASUS and Intel have recently released BIOS updates that allow the CPU fan to slow down when not needed instead of howling like a Banshee all the time.
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"Cîam en des sterko" "Havi ne malesperi personoj kiu havi ne kompreno humuro"

Sir Prize · Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:36 pm Post subject:

Sacramento sounds a pretty hot location - I think I'd like my fans running fast if I lived there.

We really should have gone over to RISC chips long ago.

(My first computer was a BBC micro)
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Sir Furry Mark · Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:30 pm Post subject:

Grawlfang · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:55 pm Post subject:

Grawlfang · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: Don't get it, P4 is weak?!

KWSN imcrazynow · Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:30 pm Post subject:

My first two computers were a Commodore 64 and then a Commodore 128. The 128 was the fist one I had with a modem. I think it was a 1200 baud. Not sure though. Both used an external 5 1/4 floppy.
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And a few that won't update for some reason.

4870 GPU

Grawlfang · Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 5:29 am Post subject:

Morbus · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:04 am Post subject:

Ok, feeling a bit stupid for bringing this one to your collective attention, so I'll have to fess up as to why I feel stupid... There was a software glitch in the new wireless networking card, I uninstalled the whole works and now there's nothing there but the driver, happy to say she's now halfway through her first shrub and ticking like a clock. I will however look into that bios thing anyway because the fan is still not throttling down and it's driving me to drink more than usual (hey any excuse is a good excuse). The others are all happily churning through their own little shrubberies (albeit in a quieter fashion).

My next question. I currently have enough spare parts lying around to build a decent quality amd based rig, I am going to go out and find a motherboard for it tomorrow. Here's where we run into the questioning part... I want to put linux on it, I am familiar with dos through gates XP, Is there a breed of linux out there that I will be able to manipulate well enough with my limited knowlege to set up a dedicated folding machine?

I will however pop onto the web tonite and look at the 2 breeds mentioned so far in this thread, just to see if I understand them.

I bow to your wisdom.

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Grawlfang · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject:

alpha_fruit · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject:

Fang, I am impressed you are so smart and impressive. Here's a hand for ya. #Bluegrab

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Morbus · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:34 pm Post subject:

yes, thank you Smile

I will set to tweeking immediately

Grawlfang · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:52 pm Post subject:

Morbus · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:25 pm Post subject:

ok fang, here's where it gets more fun... the HD just took a thwwppppt.

purely for entertainments sake, can I do linux and fold from floppies? (the HD took the CD with it). I'm intending to replace these parts anyway, but I'm curious.

Morbus · Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject:

Ok, I just got into my head to look at your website, I'm going to try that out, could you spoil me rotten with the command I'd use to start it folding?