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How old will you be Dec 31st 2004?
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How old will you be Dec 31st 2004?
12-15
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
16-20
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
21-26
17%
 17%  [ 8 ]
27-33
13%
 13%  [ 6 ]
34-41
17%
 17%  [ 8 ]
42-50
39%
 39%  [ 18 ]
51 and up
10%
 10%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote:
Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?


I was 3 then, but 12-13 years later I was using a 'ledger machine' which was probably something similar. lol
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killerrabbit wrote:
I am 22 and most likely the youngest one here.


Is that in rabbit years or human years?

In rabbit years you're an old fart.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm 47, going on 12.

On a side note my father was 60 when I was born. My wife had our first kid when I was 32.

My father was 29 years older than my mother.

I am 12 years older than my wife. When I married her she was the teenage girl that lived next door. No lie.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I am four years older than my wife... she was 15 when we met and 18 when we got married Razz
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michelle wrote:
KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote:
Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?


I was 3 then, but 12-13 years later I was using a 'ledger machine' which was probably something similar. lol


Ah, let's see, 3 in 1965. That would make you roughly 29? Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Terry West wrote:
Michelle wrote:
KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote:
Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?


I was 3 then, but 12-13 years later I was using a 'ledger machine' which was probably something similar. lol


Ah, let's see, 3 in 1965. That would make you roughly 29? Laughing


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah yes, old as dirt remembers the herman hollerith (sp?) 80 column punch card...

Once wrote an assembler on 'em for a class -- 3000 cards to the box, cards weren't numbered. Nightmare scenario was dropping your box on the way to turn them in for batch processing.

did that.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWSN_hgs wrote:
ah yes, old as dirt remembers the herman hollerith (sp?) 80 column punch card...


Razz

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote:
Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?

Of course I do - they were still in use at the start of the 80's.
However, my first true programming was done using five track paper tape - source code input on a five track typewriter/punch. (Editors and utility programs etc were loaded from durable Mylar tape). Technological progress was astonishing in those days and I soon found myself using a Westrex ASR33 teletype - you needed big muscles in your fingers to use one of those!
It was to be a couple more years before I was introduced to the Newbury "glass teletype" ...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote:
Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?


These were a great improvement on using the paper tape (just like the one used in a telex machine)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KWSN_hgs wrote:
ah yes, old as dirt remembers the herman hollerith (sp?) 80 column punch card...

Once wrote an assembler on 'em for a class -- 3000 cards to the box, cards weren't numbered. Nightmare scenario was dropping your box on the way to turn them in for batch processing.

did that.

Michelle: "plenty"-nine is the right phrase for you now!


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Furry Mark wrote:
KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote:
Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?

Of course I do - they were still in use at the start of the 80's.
However, my first true programming was done using five track paper tape - source code input on a five track typewriter/punch. (Editors and utility programs etc were loaded from durable Mylar tape). Technological progress was astonishing in those days and I soon found myself using a Westrex ASR33 teletype - you needed big muscles in your fingers to use one of those!
It was to be a couple more years before I was introduced to the Newbury "glass teletype" ...

Ni!


Help me out here SFM , I need the Model Number etc :

The 1st "Computer" I was officially allowed to "play" with was an Oliveti (forgotten model number Rolling Eyes dammit!! - old age I guess) that was mostly a rats nest of wires , keyboard , triypewriter , punch card (4 bit) reader/writer and prayer wheel . Built in 1964/5 , and purchased by my father for his (own) business with a Government Grant (THOSE were the days!) . Here lad (Grizz) , you know about these electric invoice writin' thingys - Oliveti cannot get 'round to installing it properly for several months - you have a go , I want to see it type faster than your Mum (Copy typist for a national newspaper in Fleet Street before she married) . Christmas , Birthday and Decree Nisi all in one DAY !!

Yes I got it working/installed/running - only took me a week(ish) (wish I could remember the blasted model number and kept the MANY bits of paper that it came/with/requested required Mad )
It ended up in the basement (don't ask me HOW they got it down there - it massed a lot) .
Me mum typed faster I guess .
It "only" cost ~£8000 (ie 3 x Jaguar E types then) , grant excluded .

It took my Dad just over 18 years to trust any sort of computer again in his business . (Kluddite ) Rolling Eyes
My Dad died in 2000 - I REALLY wanted that piece of antique junk - but alas , toooo late (the Oliveti dear reader) - it went to his companys pension fund - where it still languages(*) in hope of any sort of real monetary return .

Sir FM - what was that machine? It is worrying my Altzimeter .

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was it the 4001?

Or maybe the GE-115?

Or maybe the Olivetti Programma 101?

(I'm old too)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was it the Oliveti BFC Wink ?



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you sure it was an Olivetti?
I do remember seeing a (broken) P101 that matches some of your description, but given the price you quoted I suspect it was more likely to be an OGE Gamma-115 (rebadged GE-115)

Curiously, the first PCs I had for business were Olivetti M24's - faster and cheaper (at around £5000 Shocked ) than the equivalent IBM PCs.
My sister continued using one of my original systems at home until January 1st 2000, when she unexpectedly had to buy a new system... Rolling Eyes Embarassed
(How many modern PCs will still be going strong 15 years later?)

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My First computer was a Tandy TRS-80. Had a screen and keyboard attached, and to input programs you either played a cassette tape, or programed the thing yourself with basic.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dagger wrote:
My First computer was a Tandy TRS-80. Had a screen and keyboard attached, and to input programs you either played a cassette tape, or programed the thing yourself with basic.


Technically, I had the same first PC... Razz of course, I got it free from the high school cause they were throwing them out (that was in 91?)... Wink about 3 years later I bought my first new PC... Very Happy a Packard Bell 66Mhz with 4 MB Ram and a whopping 425 MB hard drive... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dagger wrote:
My First computer was a Tandy TRS-80. Had a screen and keyboard attached, and to input programs you either played a cassette tape, or programed the thing yourself with basic.


Lightning fast 20 MHZ processor Cool !!!





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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the original TRS-80 usually had a 0.89MHz 6803 processor and 4Kbytes of RAM (later models switched to the 8085 and went up to a stunningly fast 3MHz model with an enormous 72Kbytes of RAM)

Personally I shunned it in favour of a Model B BBC Micro with a 1MHz 6502 processor and 32Kbytes of RAM, sound processor and real colour graphics (up to 640 x 256 resolution!). I used this computer for ten years - adding a second processor card with 4MHz Z80+64Kbytes of RAM and a massive (literally) dual floppy disk unit. I passed it on to my son-in-law, who used it until the graphics died in 1997, by which time it was nearly 15 years old!

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Was it the Oliveti BFC Wink ?



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