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How old will you be Dec 31st 2004? |
12-15 |
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16-20 |
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2% |
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21-26 |
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17% |
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27-33 |
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13% |
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34-41 |
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42-50 |
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39% |
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51 and up |
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10% |
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Michelle Moistened Bint
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 10232 Location: At my desk
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote: | Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?
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I was 3 then, but 12-13 years later I was using a 'ledger machine' which was probably something similar. lol _________________ My brain hurts.
Jammy's Brain Donor.
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The King of Swamp Castle Prince
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 802 Location: the dutch swamps
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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Killerrabbit wrote: | I am 22 and most likely the youngest one here. |
Is that in rabbit years or human years?
In rabbit years you're an old fart.
_________________ Save the rainforest! Eat more woodpeckers! |
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She Turned Me Into A Newt KWSN ArchBishop
Joined: 18 May 2002 Posts: 4911 Location: On an Alpaca farm
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I'm 47, going on 12.
On a side note my father was 60 when I was born. My wife had our first kid when I was 32.
My father was 29 years older than my mother.
I am 12 years older than my wife. When I married her she was the teenage girl that lived next door. No lie.
_________________ I am Sî aliigi min en lacerto, a proud member of the Migratory Coconuts.
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Sir Latch Dutchubus
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2394 Location: Closer than you want (Arbutus, MD)
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I am four years older than my wife... she was 15 when we met and 18 when we got married _________________ Sir Latch of the Highlands
Bewarer of the Loonies
I visited the castle in the swamp and all I got was this alpaca scarf... *BURP*
The general rule about people on IRC seems to be: Attractive, Single, Mentally Stable... choose two.
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Terry West Prince
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 572 Location: As long as I'm here, what does it matter?
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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Michelle wrote: | KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote: | Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?
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I was 3 then, but 12-13 years later I was using a 'ledger machine' which was probably something similar. lol |
Ah, let's see, 3 in 1965. That would make you roughly 29? |
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Michelle Moistened Bint
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 10232 Location: At my desk
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Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Terry West wrote: | Michelle wrote: | KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote: | Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?
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I was 3 then, but 12-13 years later I was using a 'ledger machine' which was probably something similar. lol |
Ah, let's see, 3 in 1965. That would make you roughly 29? |
Hooray!
An A+ + in mathematics for you, grasshopper. _________________ My brain hurts.
Jammy's Brain Donor.
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KWSN_hgs Prince
Joined: 01 Mar 2004 Posts: 910 Location: location, location.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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ah yes, old as dirt remembers the herman hollerith (sp?) 80 column punch card...
Once wrote an assembler on 'em for a class -- 3000 cards to the box, cards weren't numbered. Nightmare scenario was dropping your box on the way to turn them in for batch processing.
did that.
Michelle: "plenty"-nine is the right phrase for you now! _________________ now, where was I??? |
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Fart in your gen direxion I am the goatse.cx guy
Joined: 24 May 2002 Posts: 2022 Location: Regrettably for you, I'm Upwind in Upstate N.Y.
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 1:33 pm Post subject: |
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KWSN_hgs wrote: | ah yes, old as dirt remembers the herman hollerith (sp?) 80 column punch card... |
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Sir Furry Mark KWSN ArchBishop
Joined: 18 May 2002 Posts: 3261 Location: To the West of Iceni
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote: | Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?
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Of course I do - they were still in use at the start of the 80's.
However, my first true programming was done using five track paper tape - source code input on a five track typewriter/punch. (Editors and utility programs etc were loaded from durable Mylar tape). Technological progress was astonishing in those days and I soon found myself using a Westrex ASR33 teletype - you needed big muscles in your fingers to use one of those!
It was to be a couple more years before I was introduced to the Newbury "glass teletype" ...
Ni! _________________ (Sir Furry - Occasional member of the Migratory Coconuts)
"Never trust a computer you can't throw out a window." Steve Wozniak
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Sir BaldyHead KWSN Castellan
Joined: 16 Dec 2002 Posts: 352 Location: detention, 1st cell on the right
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote: | Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?
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These were a great improvement on using the paper tape (just like the one used in a telex machine)
Ni! _________________ Stay away from the Annex to the outhouse !! nothing to see there...
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Michelle Moistened Bint
Joined: 28 Oct 2004 Posts: 10232 Location: At my desk
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Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2004 10:44 pm Post subject: |
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KWSN_hgs wrote: | ah yes, old as dirt remembers the herman hollerith (sp?) 80 column punch card...
Once wrote an assembler on 'em for a class -- 3000 cards to the box, cards weren't numbered. Nightmare scenario was dropping your box on the way to turn them in for batch processing.
did that.
Michelle: "plenty"-nine is the right phrase for you now! |
Humph!! _________________ My brain hurts.
Jammy's Brain Donor.
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Grizzly Prince
Joined: 01 Jun 2002 Posts: 3136 Location: Creepy (Crawlley)
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:25 am Post subject: |
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Sir Furry Mark wrote: | KWSN Sir CADCAM wrote: | Oh God! I feel & am old.
I first used a "business machine" in September 1965.
Anyone else remember these?
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Of course I do - they were still in use at the start of the 80's.
However, my first true programming was done using five track paper tape - source code input on a five track typewriter/punch. (Editors and utility programs etc were loaded from durable Mylar tape). Technological progress was astonishing in those days and I soon found myself using a Westrex ASR33 teletype - you needed big muscles in your fingers to use one of those!
It was to be a couple more years before I was introduced to the Newbury "glass teletype" ...
Ni! |
Help me out here SFM , I need the Model Number etc :
The 1st "Computer" I was officially allowed to "play" with was an Oliveti (forgotten model number dammit!! - old age I guess) that was mostly a rats nest of wires , keyboard , triypewriter , punch card (4 bit) reader/writer and prayer wheel . Built in 1964/5 , and purchased by my father for his (own) business with a Government Grant (THOSE were the days!) . Here lad (Grizz) , you know about these electric invoice writin' thingys - Oliveti cannot get 'round to installing it properly for several months - you have a go , I want to see it type faster than your Mum (Copy typist for a national newspaper in Fleet Street before she married) . Christmas , Birthday and Decree Nisi all in one DAY !!
Yes I got it working/installed/running - only took me a week(ish) (wish I could remember the blasted model number and kept the MANY bits of paper that it came/with/requested required )
It ended up in the basement (don't ask me HOW they got it down there - it massed a lot) .
Me mum typed faster I guess .
It "only" cost ~£8000 (ie 3 x Jaguar E types then) , grant excluded .
It took my Dad just over 18 years to trust any sort of computer again in his business . (Kluddite )
My Dad died in 2000 - I REALLY wanted that piece of antique junk - but alas , toooo late (the Oliveti dear reader) - it went to his companys pension fund - where it still languages(*) in hope of any sort of real monetary return .
Sir FM - what was that machine? It is worrying my Altzimeter .
Regds Grizz . _________________ Oh Bugger Forgot again - or is it Oh Father Reboot again ?
Ps Grizz in his second childhood - but not his last !
Edihtor of the KoKC (excused spel;l checher'er)
AND NI !!! Tophat 10e
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She Turned Me Into A Newt KWSN ArchBishop
Joined: 18 May 2002 Posts: 4911 Location: On an Alpaca farm
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:54 am Post subject: |
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Was it the 4001?
Or maybe the GE-115?
Or maybe the Olivetti Programma 101?
(I'm old too) _________________ I am Sî aliigi min en lacerto, a proud member of the Migratory Coconuts.
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Fart in your gen direxion I am the goatse.cx guy
Joined: 24 May 2002 Posts: 2022 Location: Regrettably for you, I'm Upwind in Upstate N.Y.
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 8:13 am Post subject: |
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Was it the Oliveti BFC ?
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Sir Furry Mark KWSN ArchBishop
Joined: 18 May 2002 Posts: 3261 Location: To the West of Iceni
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure it was an Olivetti?
I do remember seeing a (broken) P101 that matches some of your description, but given the price you quoted I suspect it was more likely to be an OGE Gamma-115 (rebadged GE-115)
Curiously, the first PCs I had for business were Olivetti M24's - faster and cheaper (at around £5000 ) than the equivalent IBM PCs.
My sister continued using one of my original systems at home until January 1st 2000, when she unexpectedly had to buy a new system...
(How many modern PCs will still be going strong 15 years later?)
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Dagger Prince
Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 2918 Location: BC Canada
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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My First computer was a Tandy TRS-80. Had a screen and keyboard attached, and to input programs you either played a cassette tape, or programed the thing yourself with basic. _________________ When in doubt, kick it until it works. |
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Sir Latch Dutchubus
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 2394 Location: Closer than you want (Arbutus, MD)
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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Dagger wrote: | My First computer was a Tandy TRS-80. Had a screen and keyboard attached, and to input programs you either played a cassette tape, or programed the thing yourself with basic. |
Technically, I had the same first PC... of course, I got it free from the high school cause they were throwing them out (that was in 91?)... about 3 years later I bought my first new PC... a Packard Bell 66Mhz with 4 MB Ram and a whopping 425 MB hard drive... _________________ Sir Latch of the Highlands
Bewarer of the Loonies
I visited the castle in the swamp and all I got was this alpaca scarf... *BURP*
The general rule about people on IRC seems to be: Attractive, Single, Mentally Stable... choose two.
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Fart in your gen direxion I am the goatse.cx guy
Joined: 24 May 2002 Posts: 2022 Location: Regrettably for you, I'm Upwind in Upstate N.Y.
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:58 pm Post subject: |
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Dagger wrote: | My First computer was a Tandy TRS-80. Had a screen and keyboard attached, and to input programs you either played a cassette tape, or programed the thing yourself with basic. |
Lightning fast 20 MHZ processor !!!
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Sir Furry Mark KWSN ArchBishop
Joined: 18 May 2002 Posts: 3261 Location: To the West of Iceni
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Actually, the original TRS-80 usually had a 0.89MHz 6803 processor and 4Kbytes of RAM (later models switched to the 8085 and went up to a stunningly fast 3MHz model with an enormous 72Kbytes of RAM)
Personally I shunned it in favour of a Model B BBC Micro with a 1MHz 6502 processor and 32Kbytes of RAM, sound processor and real colour graphics (up to 640 x 256 resolution!). I used this computer for ten years - adding a second processor card with 4MHz Z80+64Kbytes of RAM and a massive (literally) dual floppy disk unit. I passed it on to my son-in-law, who used it until the graphics died in 1997, by which time it was nearly 15 years old!
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Grizzly Prince
Joined: 01 Jun 2002 Posts: 3136 Location: Creepy (Crawlley)
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