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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:42 pm    Post subject: Potm September - planning Reply with quote

Trying to start the campaign earlier for a while - here's the initial list. Looking kinda thin, got any ideas?

ABC
Constellation
Edges / non vault
Einstein
Folding / non-boinc
Mersenne
Milky Way
Moo!Wrapper
Muon 1 Non-boinc
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please separate this into GPU and CPU projects...

GPU I suggest Moo
CPU I suggest Spinhenge but Mersenne looks like it has short WU's and could be cranked hard with a strong multi-core box
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agree with the double (CPU/GPU) poll (Collatz, MW, DNETC, Moo!,PG, GPUGrid are the major contenders for GPU-dom) .

Is it time to open the CPU section up to all projects, we seem to have nearly exhausted the pool by excluding previous PotMs.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the other two about splitting the poll or something because some of us do not have GPU's to use and are strictly CPU shrubbers. Have not looked at Mersenne yet as to how that does, but I can take a look and let everybody know what I find if any more are interrested
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can relieve you on Mersenne. A reasonable project; yet another Prime jolly, average credit (a bit more than Malaria, a bit less than Spinhenge). Wouldn't be a bad choice, with good potential for advancement.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks Al. We currently are sitting at 54th in the standings for Mersenne, with a total of only 83,781 credots. Certainly room to move up as we only have 5 members running it. I have just joined it and grabbed 2 quick WU's for a total runtime of roughly 15 minutes for both combined so there is potential here for sure if they run that fast lol

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With that short a run time it'd probly be best for my dual core so I can leave my big rig on some other stuff....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correlizer - CPU, new project, WUs take ~15-20min., 10-12pts./WU
http://svahesrv2.bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de/correlizer/index.php

OPTIMA - CPU, new project, WUs ~30min.- 2hrs., Linux/Mac OS only
http://boinc.isa.ru/dcsdg/

distrRTgen - GPU-CUDA only, new credit payout 2000pts/WU, WUs take ~5 min.
(I ran 1 CPU WU, took 2.75hrs.)
http://boinc.freerainbowtables.com/distrrtgen/
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been running Correlizer alongside malaria for the past several days and already have nearly 500 credits for it. Also it appears that last night's 5 minute WUs for Mersenne don't appear to be the complete norm. Grabbed one this morning that went from 5 minutes to an hour to 5 hours as an ETA Shocked Its the Lucas Lehmer primality test. Will report back how the credit goes lol
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gemjunkie wrote:
Correlizer - CPU, new project, WUs take ~15-20min., 10-12pts./WU
http://svahesrv2.bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de/correlizer/index.php

OPTIMA - CPU, new project, WUs ~30min.- 2hrs., Linux/Mac OS only
http://boinc.isa.ru/dcsdg/

distrRTgen - GPU-CUDA only, new credit payout 2000pts/WU, WUs take ~5 min.
(I ran 1 CPU WU, took 2.75hrs.)
http://boinc.freerainbowtables.com/distrrtgen/


DistrRTgen is a killer on bandwith....each WU uploads a 4mb file....doesn't take long to kill your thruput if you are running multiple GPUs in 1 box or location.....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DisrRTgen is also blacklisted by AF for being a password breaker - http://boinc-af.org/projets-non-recommandes/1064-distrrtgen-distributed-rainbow-table-generator.html
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright so i finished the big Mersenne WU and here are the results

Run Time 17,687.41 sec = 4.9 hrs
CPU time 16,509.86 sec = 4.58 hrs
128.64 credits

I think it was worth the wait and I'll try running some more soon to see how much credit i can get quickly.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gemjunkie wrote:
Correlizer - CPU, new project, WUs take ~15-20min., 10-12pts./WU
http://svahesrv2.bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de/correlizer/index.php

OPTIMA - CPU, new project, WUs ~30min.- 2hrs., Linux/Mac OS only
http://boinc.isa.ru/dcsdg/

distrRTgen - GPU-CUDA only, new credit payout 2000pts/WU, WUs take ~5 min.
(I ran 1 CPU WU, took 2.75hrs.)
http://boinc.freerainbowtables.com/distrrtgen/

Yes and there may be other new ones to add to the PotM list - I'm sure knights have checked out most of these, any opinions?

Quantum Fire
OGR-27
RC5-72
Dimes
FreeHal
DNET
Cosmology
Climate - do WU's still take 3 weeks?
GPUGrid
DPAD

I'll also go back and list which projects we've done (prior to this year?) that are still active - quite a few dead ones out there. Probably will need help tagging all the GPU projects.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't we just do RC5-72 late last year? Anyway, you can crunch it under Moo or DNETC and get BOINC points as well.

There's a BOINC wrapper for OGR-27, too, I think.

Dimes is extremely low resource, it should be running on all your shrubbers all the time already. (I haven't been able to get it running under Linux, yet though. Rolling Eyes )

I hear FreeHal only has work intermittently, haven't crunched it yet though.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the following:

Milkyway
Cosmology
QMC
ABC
Engima
Rosetta
Leiden Classical (not sure on WU availability - might drain them)
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Optima seems to be out of work atm. Confused

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK here are some of the older/still active projects and dates we ran them.

Spinhenge 12/10
RC5-72 10/10
Sztaki 9/10
Collatz 8/10
Docking 6/10
Prime Grid 4/10
World Comm Grid 2/10
NFS 1/10
QMC 12/09
Leiden 11/09
POEM 10/09
Yoyo 8/09

So we can include these with the new ones and see what happens, but I think our polls are limited to about 19 projects. Well, let me savor a few more of these local micro-brewed amber ales and see if I can come up with another list to verify for the ballot.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Poll the CPU projects separately from the GPU ones. Maybe even separate the ATIs from the CUDAs.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Climate - do WU's still take 3 weeks?


You are now able to select from a range of WU's to suit yourself. They can take from a few hours up to a very long time Razz

The really big WU's are worth some 26k credits each Wink

Think the big HADC ones will take 3+ weeks to do on this shrubber. They were usually about 1250hrs long on my old 2000ghz machine and took some 50 days or so.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well the ales didn't impart much wisdom. Embarassed We've gotta get something started, so first I split the CPU from GPU projects. As Gemjunkie suggested, separate votes may be the best way to handle that divide. I don't have a GPU, so will need help ID'ing those projects accurately plus if you want to tag CUDA vs. ATI. Then I separate "virgin" from "re-run" projects (that have already been thoroughly shagged by kanigits) in both categories. The final ballots will combine virgin and re-run projects, but note which is which. Any interest in adding the type of project such as medical, science, number crunching, etc?

Need general feedback on the structure and specific projects below...

Virgin CPU:
Correlizer
Quantum Fire
Dimes
FreeHal (Intermittent?)
Cosmology
Climate - selectable WU length?
Optima

Re-run CPU
Spinhenge
Sztaki
Docking
World Comm Grid - Badges!
NFS
QMC
Leiden
POEM
Yoyo - Badges!
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Virgin GPU:
GPUGrid
DPAD
DNET
DisTRgen - CUDA (Are we helping crackers hack passwords?)
OGR-27 (Boinc wrapper?)

Re-run GPU:
Prime Grid
Collatz GPU
RC5-72 (Moo or DNET?)
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