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LanDroid · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:29 pm Post subject: October POTM - Planning only

Here's the preliminary October list for full scale Kanigit Boincoidal review... Surprised

Any projects to add? Any dawgs to remove? Same list as last month except GenLife removed and Enigma & Yoyo added back in...

ABC
Aqua
Climate
Cosmology
Docking
Einstein
Enigma
Leiden Classical
Milky Way
NQueens
Prime Grid
POEM
Quantum Monte Carlo
Rectilinear Crossing
Rosetta
Seti
Spinhenge
Sztaki
Yoyo
World Grid

Killerrabbit · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:22 am Post subject:

PrimeGrid is having short, 48 hour, Challenge at the beginning of October.

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LanDroid · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:10 am Post subject:

Oh those Drama Primes, always begging for attention. Laughing

Nuadormrac · Prince Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Posts: 506

I d/l 1, only to find out their WUs are so danged long now Surprised

Ya know? Too many long WUs which don't trickle make my shrubber a sad panda. Some projects which give gaurenteed credit each day are a good thing #ni-1

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Grawlfang · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:39 am Post subject:

My vote would go for Einstein, Spinhenge or Cosmology - we can surely make up a few places in each of these with a little effort.

Ni!
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Killerrabbit · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:56 pm Post subject:

The PrimeGrid Challenge WUs are short this time, average length is about 15 minutes or so for a WU.

I like Leiden, it never gets enough attention.

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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

I vote we axe Enigma, credits were low and the wrapper tends to wreak havoc on other projects (it caused all my QMC work to compute error for instance).

I still like WCG and am kinda surprised how crappy we're doing at it as a team. The 20k/day I was doing at my peak was half the credit the team was doing lol. It's also one of only two projects we're ranked over 100th place. Crying or Very sad

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stooper101 · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:39 pm Post subject:

2 cents: Aqua is still trying to run down it's que. So there is still no work. It may be up by the end of this month, but might be better to look at it another time.

I'll probably do PG for the challenge but don't really want to do it all month.

Other than that, I'll wait for the vote and do whatever.
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KWSN imcrazynow · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: October POTM - Planning only

JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Email them. They actually have support people that respond, and are generally helpful.
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LanDroid · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:55 pm Post subject:

Revised list:

ABC
Aqua <=Deleted, Lack o' work
Climate
Collatz <=Possible addition, but see below.
Cosmology
Docking
Einstein
Enigma <=Deleted, doesn't play well w/others
Leiden Classical
Milky Way
NQueens
Prime Grid
POEM
Quantum Monte Carlo
Rectilinear Crossing
Rosetta
Seti
Spinhenge
Sztaki
Yoyo
World Grid

The following from Collatz web site 2 days ago doesn't sound good at all, can someone confirm this will run smoothly in October???

KWSN imcrazynow · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:48 pm Post subject:

The planned work is for this coming weekend 9/25 and26. There should be an update sometime this weekend as to how it went.
Besides, this past weekend they got hammered by most of the people running MW since it was down.
#ni-1

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4870 GPU

Adam Alexander · Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:25 pm Post subject:

I'm fine with WCG.
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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Yeah, MW being down for 2 1/2 days really put the hurt on Collatz for the first time. Hopefully we'll know how we stand after the maint this weekend.

Yoyo was fun, but probably too soon to do again just yet. The PS3 client is also nice.

PrimeGrid has a PS3 client as well but only for one (more yet?) subproject, so...

Collatz and MW are both hard to recommend as they are GPU projects. Yeah, sure, they HAVE CPU clients, but why bother? Every core of every CPU I've got put together is out-done by my HD4870 6x over. Even if all of us put our CPUs on the project for a month it would be like simulating 2 graphics cards hehe. Maybe once the GPU thing becomes more popular (and the ATI side seems to be gaining steam nicely) we can have a GPUPoTM too hehe.
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LanDroid · Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:29 am Post subject:

"Every core of every CPU I've got put together is out-done by my HD4870 6x over."

Wow! Guess it's time to invest in one of those puppies...

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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

If you have a single precision card go to Collatz! Every system I own now is running GPU work. My main system (with the HD4870) is on MW, all the rest are on Collatz hehe. Even my laptop with it's integrated HD3650 is happily crunching away (and faster than the HD4350, but using a LOT of CPU time to do it). And with the new drivers (9.9), new BOINC (10.6.3 at least), and new Collatz app everything has been sooooooo stable, it's awesomesauce. No more micro managing at all, all my systems are just click and go.

The Collatz app is kinda weird, it's bound by something other than clock speed on the card on my X2 (the HD4350). I over-clocked the snot out of the card and saw zero change in WU times. Loads hover between 65 and 75% on the card, too. Given that the system is a healthily overclocked dual core with 4 GB of RAM I don't know what the bottleneck is if it isn't the card. The VRAM on the card is slow as heck though, and seems to be related. MW seems to ignore the memory speeds, but overclocking the memory on the HD4350 actually brought loads up from 60% to 65-70%, so I think that's part of the limitation.

As for SLI that actually hurts more than it helps, since it doesn't scale 100%. You're better off running them non-SLI and 2 WUs at once (one each).

What I really want is someone to post results from an HD5870 (they shipped today). Twice the stream procs as the 4870, w00t. Probably going to put an HD4850 in my new system when I build it, consider the "little" version of the card is still going to stomp a 4890 into the ground hehe.
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