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VOTE: Project Of The Month - August
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Select August Project of The Month from choices below:
ABC - Rank 26 - Stomp Factor Low
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Aqua - Rank 33 - Stomp Factor Low
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Climate Prediction - Rank 10 - Stomp Factor Zero
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Docking - Rank 11 - Stomp Factor Low
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Einstein - Rank 17 - Stomp Factor Low
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Leiden Classical - Rank 17 - Stomp Factor High
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
Milky Way - Rank 10 - Stomp Factor Medium
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
NQueens - Rank 15 - Stomp Factor Medium
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Poem - Rank 25 - Stomp Factor High
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Quantum Monte Carlo - Rank 42 - Stomp Factor Medium
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Rectilinear Crossing - Rank 24 - Stomp Factor High
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
Rosetta - Rank 19 - Stomp Factor Low
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SETI - Rank 5 - Stomp Factor Zero
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Spinhenge - Rank 11 - Stomp Factor Zero
0%
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Sztaki - Rank 9 - Stomp Factor Medium
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
World Grid - Rank 101 - Stomp Factor Medium
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Yoyo - Rank 23 - Stomp Factor High
27%
 27%  [ 5 ]
Cosmology - Rank 9 - Stomp Factor Zero
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 18

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: VOTE: Project Of The Month - August Reply with quote

Please vote for the project that you prefer for Project of The Month from the list above. The concept is KWSN members should allocate as many crunching assets to that project as feasible during the month of August. See additional team stats in my signature.

Stomp Factor
My subjective rating of the number of teams we could stomp during the month.

Zero = We're solid, but probably can't move up.
Low = We might move up 1 or 2 places with some luck.
Medium = We could move up say 3 to 5 places.
High = We should stomp a bunch of teams on this project!

Notes on excluded projects:
Genetic Life stable, but undergoing significant work this month.
SHA-1 Collision has been on hold since 5/12/09.
uFluids appears "rickety" at the moment.
Sudoku, Malaria, and others appear dead at the moment.

FYI: I'm putting this up for a vote early 'cause I'll be on vacation through 7/26...
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far it looks like RottenCrafty

How does that work again?

They have a BOINC-Wrapper, but they get no credit, but we get credit?

And I thought the OTHER Thread was for getting cornfuzzled! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

we get yoyo credit, but the actual subproject the credit goes to a placeholder team that's just for yoyo. run by rottenkraft but they do not get the points.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I'm in - As for Collatz, I'm in too! Laughing - And I didn't want to spread
out too much! Laughing - I'm just following the lead of all you big-hitters!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah yoyo has many subprojects. So if you want you do not have to run the ogr subproject on yoyo.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for being confused but if we go with YoYo and I choose, say, Muon as the sub-project. Even though we have a KWSN team for Muon, the Rotten guys will get the credit for that project, so, in essence, we're hurting ourselves...? Right? But we'll get YoYo credit as it pertains to BOINC?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had another question, please...

Is there any advantage to running any particular App? All of them?

Quote:
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Cruncher - optimal golumb ruler
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I already run OGR and Muon, so maybe I should just try the other two?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nono. If you choose muon, you will get yoyo credit and a placeholder team will get muon credit. Rottenkraft doesn't get the credit that goes to the placeholder team. The only detriment is that the placeholder team holds a spot above us, but I wouldn't worry about it as we'd have to outperform everyone contributing on yoyo to do anything about it.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all of them are windows only except OGR. There may be a credit advantage to one or the other subprojects, but we'll need a windows shrubber to scope it out and see.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yankton wrote:
nono. If you choose muon, you will get yoyo credit and a placeholder team will get muon credit. Rottenkraft doesn't get the credit that goes to the placeholder team. The only detriment is that the placeholder team holds a spot above us, but I wouldn't worry about it as we'd have to outperform everyone contributing on yoyo to do anything about it.

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Okay, so a "placeholder" team gets the Muon credit then, but not us, so we would effectively be competing against our own team score on the Muon project? Or am I not understanding this correctly? How is the placeholder team decided? Is there a specific team for each sub-project?

I know, lots of questions, just that I don't understand why we would pick a project for POTM that, granted would help us in YoYo but would hurt us in the *real* project we're actually shrubbing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

each subproject supposedly made a placeholder for the credits coming from yoyo (I haven't checked all of them, I'm lazy). That being said we'd have to outperform yoyo on the actual subproject to get that place, but every team has to deal with that so it's kind of a moot point. The points the placeholder spots get won't hurt us as we're nowhere near them (the ones I checked anyway, and it follows the rest are similar). In fact, doing yoyo helps keep teams above us on those subprojects from getting further ahead.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can also run yoyo on a PS3 to the tune of around 2000 credits/day. Not as good as GPUGrid, but still not bad. I've been running OGR on one of my MW boxes and the length of the WU's and credit awarded are all over the place. Actually, the same pretty much holds true for all the projects, but overall, the credit is pretty good.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And according to this thread the ECM app runs better with 64-bit.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would just like to say, that even though we are voting early it does not mean we are finished with our current POTM quite yet.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All but my main shrubber are still on Enigma 100%. I'm still fighting with the MW/Enigma scheduler conflicts, but am going to try giving it a half share tonight to see if it will play nice with a third project mediating. Unfortunately I started QMC with that in mind, having forgotten that Enigma makes all of my QMC WUs error out after 100% (meaning they waste many hours THEN error) so I'm having to let that burn some work through first. Once my queue is cleared I'll try firing up another project to see if that'll keep Enigma in check.

If not, <shrug>, my main shrubber will go back to other projects but the rest will continue to run just Enigma until the month is done.

I'm already trying to get the PrimeGrid PS3 app working (and as a side effect got an updated BOINC client that now runs more tasks at a time, so bonus either way) just in case that project wins again lol.



Basically trying to bring them all up to 500k (with the exception of retireds like SAP and NanoHive, specials like Yoyo which I'm only running to keep my PS3 occupied, and Proteins because they suck). Don't know yet if I'm going to bother with that goal for Enigma, as my only interest in it was PoTM. And, honestly, don't think I'm going to bother with any more PoTMs unless they happen to be a project I'm interested in.

Most of the projects listed are 0 RAC but take awhile to actually show that. Only WCG (which has some residual machines I have no access to), GPUGrid/Yoyo (PS3), QMC (running WUs through by mistake basically), Enigma (PoTM duh), and MilkyWay (only GPU app I run) have >0 RAC at the moment. SIMAP is active on all my machines as well, since they only get work for a few days at the beginning of each month. Normally I try to keep them all fairly even, shuffling the odd computers around to bring up slower/weaker projects.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No Tatas@Home yet again? #Mad
Well, I guess I'll flow with the team this month... Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These YoYo calculations:

Since there's SubProjects, I would assume there's different estimated WU
times 'til completion, right?

The ones I snagged as I opened up my new account were all for MUON.
I have completed one WU, giving me a credit of 213.66 and an initial
RAC of 13.66, and I am wRoking on the other eight I received.

BOINC says seventeen hours, but so far it looks like 24 or so on my
KWSN Shrubber, the P4@3GHz, 768MB RAM machine.

Is my PC THAT slow? Sheesh! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Muon seem to be at different times, some take only about 2 hours, some take about one day.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idan wrote:
No Tatas@Home yet again? #Mad
Well, I guess I'll flow with the team this month... Laughing


Here's yer Tatas...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 26, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK loonies, if you haven't done so, it is time to VOTE!
Only 12 votes recorded so far, we usually get 20+
We Kanigits need to exercize our democratic rights quickly so our feudal lords can start plowing and reseeding their massive farms!

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