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LanDroid · Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:42 pm Post subject: VOTE: Planning for POTM August

I'm going on vacation 7/18 - 7/26, so thought I'd start this early. I could put the final vote up when I get back, but I may go ahead and do it in the next few days.

Coupla options I'm thinking about in case we want to try something slightly different. Not that POTM resembles normalcy! Shocked

Please vote on your preference:

Stomp Factor High Only
In this scenario, we would vote only on projects with a high stomp factor, where we can pass a bunch of teams during the month. This would probably be a longer term commitment - if there are 4 or 5 projects in that category, we'd run them all one at a time over the next few month 'til we're done. Perhaps we should "get this out of our system" once and for all, then move on?

Rickety Projects
There are a fair number of projects that we've avoided due to intermittent work, unreliable project equipment, etc. So the concept would be that we all attach to 3 to 5 of these unreliable projects at the same time and between them all try to make a go of it. Probably some high stomp factor projects in this category as well. Could be complicated to keep track of. Won't need to switch back & forth, stay attached to all of 'em... (Not for those who run away! at the first botched work unit.)

Standard Ballot
Put up a standard ballot and vote on it as usual, hoping loonies stop engineering ties and run-off elections.

Better Idea
If you have a more creative idea for POTM, vote for it above and let us know, maybe it will catch on...

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LanDroid · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 6:39 pm Post subject:

OK, so standard ballot it is. Here's the first cut at the list. Same as last month except Enigma deleted and Aqua added.

Grawly the spanker - Is it OK to add Genetic Life, has that stabilized enough to withstand a kanigit onslaught?

ABC
Aqua
Climate
Docking
Einstein
Leiden Classical
Milky Way
NQueens
POEM
QMC
Rectilinear Crossing
Rosetta
Seti
Spinhenge
Sztaki
uFluids
World Grid
Yoyo

Waddya think - any projects to add or delete?

Killerrabbit · Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject:

If Aqua has no work by the beginning of the month then it should not be agreed upon.

No Cosmo@Home? I know the magazine might be trashy but we can't be that much better.

Ni
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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

I don't want to deal with any more dinky half assed projects personally. Enigma has been a ton of trouble, requiring constant babysitting because the wrapper is only half compatible with BOINC. I keep getting batches of WUs with 24 hour due dates, despite the 20+ WUs I've already got due in 7 days. Those 24 hour WUs cause everything else to halt, including MilkyWay, until those are all out of the queue. It cost me 20,000+ points today alone, and is really stupid BS. It also broke every QMC WU I had.

Ok, enough ranting for now.
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Lloyd M. · Prince Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 521

I agree! We've had two rinky-dink POTMs in a row. Enough, already!

Does anyone know if Milkyway has straightened out their WU supply problem? They seem to have, as I used that as a backup on several shrubbers when Enigma wouldn't send me any WUs, and I got plenty of shrubs from Milkyway every time.

And it seems to me that, at least at one time, we were within striking distance of moving up on that project.
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LanDroid · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject:

Two rinky-dinks in a row, Prime Grid and Enigma? I don't recall problems with Prime Grid. About the only way we can avoid rinky-dinks is if kanigits who are actively crunching the project speak up before we put it on the ballot. See Aqua thread for such a request... It's fairly easy to figger out if a project is dead, not so easy if it's intermittent...

JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Milkyway is all over the place now cause they have an ATI GPU client. That's why my RAC is 30k and climbing hehe. Unfortunately the BOINC manager thinks it's a CPU app (since it only recognizes CUDA and CPU) so it's a scheduling nightmare.

The worst part about these short deadline batches of work I keep getting is that all I have to do is pause all but 3 of them and 3 will run "high priority" with one long term WU running and everything goes smooth as butter. When they finish I unpause the next short one, things go great. If I have 4 (or more) un-paused short deadline WUs everything else comes to a screaming halt. That's a BOINC manager problem, but it's being aggravated by the scheduler doing dirty tricks.

Ah well.

As for speaking up, I did. Both for my project and against Enigma. I don't know where you've been but logical discussion has rarely been effective as a method of determining anything with this lot.
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John Galt 007 · Prince Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 1206 Location: Wisconsin

ABC

Plenty of work, shrubs well under 64 bit...

Or SETI...allows those of us with CUDA cards to rack up the points, and with a 10 day cache you shouldn't run out of work...

Plus, we got aced out of (the number that can't be spoken)th place and are now in 5th...
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LanDroid · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 3:48 pm Post subject:

"I don't know where you've been but logical discussion has rarely been effective as a method of determining anything with this lot."

Heh, the lust to STOMP can be difficult to control! Laughing

LanDroid · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject:

Signature test - list of projects/credits/RAC KWSN has crunched...
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Killerrabbit · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:58 pm Post subject:

PrimeGird always had plenty of work, though for the longer WUs if the computer got too warm then you had issues.

Ni
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Killerrabbit · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:59 pm Post subject:

If we do SETI, why not consider Einstein as well. Plenty of work, though the WUs can be longer on older machines. Though I believe a project like Leiden or RCN, we can earn more DC Vault points for positions.

Ni
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Adam Alexander · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject:

Yoyo has plenty of work and gives good credit. The evolution WU's can be troublesome, but you can deselect it in your user preferences.

As for Milkyway, the more the merrier. KWSN have moved up 7 places this month with 2 places this week. Unfortunately, we're about 45 days from moving into 9th place at our current output. Of course, with the rate some knigits have been adding ATI cards, that time-frame is probably a bit exaggerated. WU's are not hard to get and even using the CPU app, you can get very good production, especially with the optimized apps.
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alpha_fruit · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:12 pm Post subject:

My passion..........F@H, I have 3 PC and PS3. My favorite project for me. Jump on this for a month.
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KWSN imcrazynow · Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

I'm out on SETI. It was my first project and I got my first million there, but since they refuse to fix what is broken I quit shrubbing them. They refuse to set a minimum BOINC version. The older ones claim 0 credit and since the lowest claim is granted you know what happens. The work they return is a valid result but there's no credit granted. It may have been a string of bad luck for me but it seemed that I was the wingman to ALOT of the poeple runing the older versions. Alot of wasted effort! #Mad

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And a few that won't update for some reason.

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Killerrabbit · Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:17 am Post subject:

Then make sure SETI loses by not voting for it in the poll.

Ni
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Adam Alexander · Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject:

John Galt 007 · Prince Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 1206 Location: Wisconsin

ohiomike's problem was with Docking, not PG...and it was bad WUs on Docking's part... #Mad

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