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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Team Founder Management Reply with quote

Our Seti team is now in the process of being Hijacked. We have 11 days to correct this problem with Berkley before some one not on the team has control of our Seti team along with the Email address of every member of the KWSN Seti team.

This situation is Unacceptable.

As a group we need to find a way to secure our Shrubberies and Members from Risk....

These are the Projects I am a member of and the Team Founders....

Milkyway@Home.....................Wabbit98

Cosmology@Home..................ohiomike

Einstein@Home.......................Project Down

PS3GRID................................Project Down

Seti@Home.............................Unknown, change requested by non-team member

Sudoku...................................KWSN Sir Clark

SZTAKI Desktop Grid...............Wabbit98

SHA-1 Collision Search Graz.....KWSN - The Knights Who Say Ni! (the same as Seti) ie: Unknown

POEM@Home ..........................Wabbit98

World Community Grid.............KWSN - JerWA

3x+1@home............................Project Unreachable. Not Active

NQueens Project.......................Wabbit98

Genetic Life..............................Grawlfang

Docking@Home........................KWSN - A Shrubbery

AQUA@home...........................Wabbit98

PrimeGrid................................Wabbit98

Pirates@Home..........................Toby

The Lattice Project....................Toby

Someone (Wabbit mabey) should check on the other projects and post the founders here for discussion.... #ni-1
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well generally the team founder is about one of three people (me, Toby, and someone else). Now I do not know what is going on with SETI. Can you see who requested the change? It has to be someone on the team. Also the Founder has to be notified and then respond or else they lose the designation. Not my favorite part about BOINC, but Dr. A seems to like it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Strange I was under the impression only a member of the team could request a change. If it happens I will initiate the transfer myself, so the original Knight, our founder can take it over again.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checklist For Adding BOINC Founder/Captain Contact Info - Alphabetical [A-M]

When you look at the BOINCStats site under Project overview for "The Knights Who Say Ni!", you see BOINC combined, followed by each project they track. On each project, you can click on the 'Graph' Icon and see Detailed statistics for
"The Knights Who Say Ni!"
, right? We need to ask BOINCStats to show the Team Founders and whatever else may help in keeping such from happening again! I'd guess we can start with the Team IDs and Date Founded. (Is the Team ID just the team's ranking?) Sorry if all this is not needed, but I'm just trying to help...

3x+1@home Team ID 43
Team founded at 2008-02-20

ABC@home Team ID 65
Team founded at 2006-12-27

ABC@home beta Team ID 65
Team founded at 2006-12-27

AlmereGrid Boinc Grid Team ID 458
Team founded at 2008-10-29

APS@Home Team ID 77
Team founded at 2007-07-06

AQUA@home Team ID 45
Team founded at 2008-12-11

Artificial Intelligence Team Team ID 4
Team founded at 2007-09-05

BBC Climate Change Team ID 9
Team founded at 2006-02-14

BOINC Alpha Test Team ID 92
Team founded at 2007-12-04

BURP Team ID 25
Team founded at 2005-03-05

Cels@Home (old) Team ID 267
Team founded at 2008-02-27

Chess960@Home Team ID 12
Team founded at 2006-03-24

Climate Prediction Team ID 45
Team founded at 2004-08-06

Cosmology@Home Team ID 71
Team founded at 2007-07-17

DepSpid Team ID 31
Team founded at 2006-12-20

DistrRTgen Team ID 224
Team founded at 2009-03-31

Docking@Home Team ID 4
Team founded at 2006-09-13

Einstein@Home Team ID 44
Team founded at 2004-11-11

Enigma@Home Team ID 83
Team founded at 2007-09-16

FreeHAL Team ID 31
Team founded at 2008-09-12

Genetic Life Team ID 1
Team founded at 2008-06-18

Gerasim@Home Team ID 35
Team founded at 2007-02-16

GPUGRID Team ID 23
Team founded at 2007-07-03

HashClash Team ID 46
Team founded at 2006-03-14

Hydrogen@Home Team ID 63
Team founded at 2007-10-25

IBERCIVIS Team ID 927
Team founded at 2008-07-13

Leiden Classical Team ID 74
Team founded at 2006-02-24

LHC@Home Team ID 10
Team founded at 2004-09-01

Magnetism@home Team ID 64
Team founded at 2008-06-17

Malaria Control Team ID 20
Team founded at 2006-03-07

MilkyWay@home Team ID 26
Team founded at 2007-08-29

MindModeling@Home Team ID 21
Team founded at 2008-01-26
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone post on the SETI message board and find out if they can stop someone who is not part of the team from taking it over? I would but it seems you need a certain amount of credit to post and I guess 15K is not enough credit to post anything on their forums.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killerrabbit wrote:
Strange I was under the impression only a member of the team could request a change. If it happens I will initiate the transfer myself, so the original Knight, our founder can take it over again.

Ni


You will not be able to get the team back if Bino54 defends it by responding to the Email. The transfer only takes place if the Founder agrees or does not respond.

We could loose control of the team Forever
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said we need someone to post on the SETI forums.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killerrabbit wrote:
As I said we need someone to post on the SETI forums.

Ni


Sir Yankton is on it............

But we as a team need to make sure this doesn't happen again.

Having a non-active founder or one that can't actually receive Emails is courting disaster.

A mis-configured Spam filter could cost us a project.............
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unread Message 884604 - Posted 12 Apr 2009 16:17:20 UTC

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"The Knights Who Say Ni!" have now opened a Thread about somebody (perhaps mistakenly) initiating a Team Transfer. See it at http://www.kwsnforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=13170 for info. This is some info about this bino54 character...

Climate Prediction
27 Jan 2009
User ID 554863 "Gerold Hecht"

MilkyWay@Home
23 Feb 2009
User ID 27677 "bino54"

SETI@Home
27 Jan 2009
User ID 9019981 "bino54"

Spinhenge@Home
22 Feb 2009
User ID 66208 "Bino"

None of us know this guy, and I personally don't know how to contact our Team Founder, but it SURE ain't Bino!!

SETI@Home
Founder KWSN - The Knights Who Say Ni! UserID 189205

SETI@home member since 19 May 1999
Country United States
URL http://www.KnightsWhoSayNi.Net/seti/
Total credit 9,504
Recent average credit 0.00
SETI@home classic workunits 1,332
SETI@home classic CPU time 41,797 hours
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have requested a transfer on two smaller projects already where the person is no longer active.

I have also emailed MacG, he is active in SETI and the forums and should be able to help us.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone trying a hostile takeover on THIS team is lilely to get a lot more than they bargained for! Twisted Evil

It would appear you have the situation well in hand. Is there any more specific help needed? Boil water? Clean sheets?? Make it a sticky post??? Anything!!! Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about the Lovely Rachel to tend to our minstrations.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can this be un-stickied???

I guess I will un-sticky it and see if anyone else bumps it.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Papa Smurph wrote:
Killerrabbit wrote:
Strange I was under the impression only a member of the team could request a change. If it happens I will initiate the transfer myself, so the original Knight, our founder can take it over again.

Ni


You will not be able to get the team back if Bino54 defends it by responding to the Email. The transfer only takes place if the Founder agrees or does not respond.

We could loose control of the team Forever


See, there's 2 problems I see with this setup right off the bat:

- The original founder was on vacation when it happened. The rationale could be if the person ceased doing BOINC it could allow it to fall to other hands. Only problem is anyone could put in the request; someone comes back from a few weeks vacation and well... I've even known people to travel overseas for a month out of the year.

- A former team member, joins up with another team, and orchestrates a hijack with someone on their new team. They retained ownership when this happened.

Messy yes. But no less messy then when a former class mate of mine made the mistake of providing access to his school's email address to his former girl friend (they weren't former at the time). When they broke up, she logged into his email, sent a nasty gram to the president of the college willed with about every swear word known to man, and got him expelled from school. Hey, it can happen with some people Surprised
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this stuff still going on? I'm a team founder on one of the projects, and someone just tried to initiate a transfer on me a couple of days ago.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 25, 2010 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't someone and I say that loosely, contact all starters of project and turn it over to an active body.

Did I say that right?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MajorKong wrote:
Is this stuff still going on? I'm a team founder on one of the projects, and someone just tried to initiate a transfer on me a couple of days ago.


Same here...someone named Elliot Goldstein just tried to do that to me with the Collatz team....I KaBlocked him....
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