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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:50 am    Post subject: Seti CUDA Reply with quote

I was forced to reinstall my os (again) and I attached to all my projects.
So I downloaded a Seti Wu, ( I haven't run seti in years) and I was amazed to see it running with 4 Milky units at the same time.

Is this using my Graphics card?

It only shows 25 seconds on Boinc and on Task manager but it has been running for almost 1 hour?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:38 am    Post subject: Re: Seti CUDA Reply with quote

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I was forced to reinstall my os (again) and I attached to all my projects.
So I downloaded a Seti Wu, ( I haven't run seti in years) and I was amazed to see it running with 4 Milky units at the same time.

Is this using my Graphics card?

It only shows 25 seconds on Boinc and on Task manager but it has been running for almost 1 hour?

Sounds like you have a NVidia graphics card.
From what I've read on the SETI/CUDA project, it shows wall time only (ie- does not see the GPU time used). The newer versions of BOINC will find any GPUs available and use them if the client task can (SETI and some other project I forget). If Boinc is not running in deadline mode, it will start one task per CPU core and one for each GPU found.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it might be time to reconsider Seti again.

Yes I have a 8800 GT. (nvidia)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long did it run to the end and what graphics card do you have? I'm considering running SETI CUDA on my quad with an 8500GT card.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took about 1 hour but only 25 seconds on my CPU. The time reported to seti was 27.30 seconds and it requested 16.99 credits, it's still pending so I don't know what it finally get.

I am going to try to run this as well, Why not?

I just wish I could keep Seti on the GPU only.

here is a list of what cards are compatible http://www.gpugrid.net/forum_thread.php?id=316

The site says your 8500gt will run slow, but it's better than letting it sit there.
Mine is an 8800 GT with 512 meg memory. as soon as Seti will let me get more Wu's I will let a couple run and then OC the card as far as it will go and see if there is a difference that is worth the bother of running OC'ed
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It finally let me Dl more WU's ( I had to suspend Milky ).

after I got them I resumed Milky ( that always runs in High Priority mode ) and it went to the Gpu. ( it was using a Cpu core )

So I will give it some time to run a couple of units as a bench mark and later today I will Oc the hell out of my card and see what' Up #evil
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Papa.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It should tell you CUDA in the application name.

In Windows it needs to keep a CPU to push and pull the work in and out of the GPU, so you lose a CPU but gain speed on the GPU. On *nix it looks like you can do all CPU + GPU. Advantage, *nix (like there was ever a doubt).

The High Priority is a side effect, but they are working on fixing some of those in the next versions.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pooh Bear 27 wrote:
It should tell you CUDA in the application name.

In Windows it needs to keep a CPU to push and pull the work in and out of the GPU, so you lose a CPU but gain speed on the GPU. On *nix it looks like you can do all CPU + GPU. Advantage, *nix (like there was ever a doubt).

The High Priority is a side effect, but they are working on fixing some of those in the next versions.

I've been following the development of the driver, and my disappointment this far is how they use the GPU. For instance, Sir Papa Smurph's 8800 GT has 112 Stream Processors and 512 MB of memory. I don't think all 112 processors are needed for 1 instance of SETI. It seems to me like each GPU could handle more than one SETI task (20 processors/task or something like that).
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting. Confused
I have two systems at home with CUDA capable displays (an 8800 GTX and an 8600M GT). They are currently running non-BOINC applications, but if I can get the GPU BOINCing for very little CPU cost that would be cool... Cool

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

on 9 WU's so far cpu cost is no more than 40 seconds. most are 25 seconds.

But, if milky is not running at High Priority then it will take a core. ( that is just Wrong )
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've confirmed that I have the correct display drivers and version 6.4.5 of BAM.
Log file says:
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21/12/2008 18:45:41||CUDA devices found
21/12/2008 18:45:41||Coprocessor: GeForce 8800 GTX (1)

However I can only get work to run on the CPUs.
Do you need to do anything special to get the units to run on the GPU?
Have I missed a config option somewhere?? Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Furry Mark wrote:
Interesting. Confused
I have two systems at home with CUDA capable displays (an 8800 GTX and an 8600M GT). They are currently running non-BOINC applications, but if I can get the GPU BOINCing for very little CPU cost that would be cool... Cool

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You can run GPU grid as well. I have a 8800GTS and it is running it with very little CPU usage.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sir Furry Mark wrote:
I've confirmed that I have the correct display drivers and version 6.4.5 of BAM.
Log file says:
Code:
21/12/2008 18:45:41||CUDA devices found
21/12/2008 18:45:41||Coprocessor: GeForce 8800 GTX (1)

However I can only get work to run on the CPUs.
Do you need to do anything special to get the units to run on the GPU?
Have I missed a config option somewhere?? Confused


Mine only seem to run when Milky is running. As it always seems to be in High Priority mode. If I suspend milky it only runs on the 4 cores unless it has already started on the gpu

Ps: it really caused some lag on Forged Alliance over a lan with 4 players. I was the server Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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...Ps: it really caused some lag on Forged Alliance over a lan with 4 players. I was the server Confused


Yeah when it hits the GPU it seems to hit is pretty hard. You basically have to suspend that project while you are playing. When I play WoW I will suspend my GPU project(s), then unsuspend when I am finished. If I do not do that then I end up with basically a slideshow of the game, and WoW is not really that GPU intensive, which makes me thing the GPU projects REALLY hit the GPU hard.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This damn thing Pi$$es me off........

unless Milky is running at High priority it won't use the Gpu.

The only reason I reattached to Seti was if it would not interfere with my other ( read Worthy ) projects. Now it is just in the way. #Mad

Well actually it is using the Gpu but only 3 WU's on the core. I guess Pooh Bear was correct. 1 core is just sitting on System Idle Process.

I believe that I may Detach until they make this work right.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Correct me if i'm wrong, but my understanding from reading on gpugrid was that even if you are crunching a cuda WU, it still needed a CPU core assigned to that WU, to direct the GPUs maybe?

But then it's holiday season so maybe I had too much eggnog.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yankton wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong, but my understanding from reading on gpugrid was that even if you are crunching a cuda WU, it still needed a CPU core assigned to that WU, to direct the GPUs maybe?

But then it's holiday season so maybe I had too much eggnog.

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Well, Thats what Pooh Bear said, However, when I first got it my box ran 4 Milky units at 25% each and a Cuda. But now that I have no Milky's left ( looks like they are out of work ) I am only running 3 various projects and 1 Cuda with 25% going to system Idle process.

So I turned Muon back on to pick up the slack. ( I had it off as I am trying to break 3 million before the end of the year )

This is really hurting my production with Milky gone.
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Yankton wrote:
Correct me if i'm wrong, but my understanding from reading on gpugrid was that even if you are crunching a cuda WU, it still needed a CPU core assigned to that WU, to direct the GPUs maybe?

But then it's holiday season so maybe I had too much eggnog.

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When GPUGRID first started they would use 1 core and 100% of the GPU. This was a waist as the 1 core was only being used to "manage" the GPU. As time progressed they figured out how to only use about 10-15% of one core and 100% of the GPU. This allows me to run four other projects at once while running GPUGRID, for a total of five projects running at once. Sometimes it will "revert" back and Boinc will only run four projects, but usually within an hour or so it will add an additional project and I am back to five. I dont think the coding is 100% correct yet, but it seems to work more often than not. Everything I know is based on GPUGRID, I am not sure about SETI's GPU project.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've failed to get anything to run on the GPU - it just runs four SETI instances on the main CPUs (one per core). Kind of defeats the point of soaking up spare GPU time if you have to run a high priority BOINC project (e.g. Milky) to get it to work...
I've put the project on NNW for now and I'm letting the remaining units run through on the CPU.

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