KWSN Orbiting Fortress

Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:25 pm Post subject:

So with about 2/3rds of the challenge done (10 days down, 5 days left), how is everyone fairing? The tasks are getting a bit longer, and I am still on par. 36 units reported so far, 16 in progress (not all 16 may make it back in time), and what looks like 4-8 more to grab and (hopefully) finish before the end.

Anyone else notice the new Pending page? It had been requested before, but I put another bug in their ear recently and it became a thing. Very nice to be able to sort by any column.

Anyway, good luck on the final leg of this challenge. Looks like I should have over 5000 WUProp hours easily. I am going to try and get the new LLR test program running after the challenge and help with cleanup. Would love to see the speedup, especially on the Haswell. It is interesting, the Haswell runs slower on LLR than my SB, which I find strange, but I blame it mostly on the Windows 8.1 bloat. I know I should move to Linux, or at minimum downgrade it to 7, but I've just not been as patient with doing that stuff as I once was.
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Gemjunkie · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:02 am Post subject:

My 2 hex-cores should finish 2 sets, my Q9550 turned in 1 set, of the 2nd set 2 will finish in time, the other 2 look like they'll miss by ~10hrs. My i5 takes a little over 3 days, 2 cores just finishing now and can finish another, the other 2 are ~50hrs out and won't have time for more.

Great show by DOW, jumping from nothing to the top 10. Cool

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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:50 am Post subject:

My dang luck. My fastest machine crapped out overnight. It will not stay running. Have done the dust bunny stuff, etc, but it just reboots every 15-60 minutes. I cannot currently stabilize it enough to run a good diagnoses on it. So it's repair time. Good think all of it's under warranty. Unsure if I can get the current 3 units that are ready to drop in a few hours finished before the end or not. I am not getting another 4 units to finish on it as I originally expected.

Oh well, that's how the cookie crumbles. Seems to hit me during challenges almost every time.
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Gemjunkie · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 12:44 pm Post subject:

Too bad. It always seems to happen to the best machine, too. That the 4770?
Bought or BIY?
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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:56 pm Post subject:

In LLR, the 3770 was faster, interestingly enough. It was a bought machine, with some tweaks.

It is ONLY faster on LLR. I have a few ideas on this.
1: Windows 7 vs Windows 8.1. The new one has a lot more overhead with wanting to be all touchy feelly.
2: Lower power, stays cooler, doesn't throttle back as much.
3: Case architecture. The 3770 seems to be a little better front to back ventilated.

I am sure there are other reasons. The faster GPU may be causing more CACHE hits by processing faster, and it may cause more heat causing more throttling, etc.

LLR is a super test on these processors, probably better than Prime95.
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Gemjunkie · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:59 pm Post subject:

Sounds reasonable. Good luck with the warranty.
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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:04 pm Post subject:

Definitely heat related. I had some time to bring the system up and run a full diagnostics on it. The CPU jumped in heat quickly during the minimal tests.

Time to open and check the fans. I already working on getting the CPU replaced.

Trying to run 2 LLR and no GPU to get the few that are ready to drop done. 3 units have less than 12 hours. If 2 crashes, I'll throttle back to a single unit at a time. At least I can get the ones I have in queue done while I await the replacement (2-3 days).

Yankton · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:48 pm Post subject:

Fresh thermal compound and all that. If nothing works you could try de-lidding it and go from there. See if you can watch your voltage too. If the regulator has gone bad then you'll need a new MB or cpu or both.
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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:29 pm Post subject:

More tests, it looks actually like GPU now. I still have to validate that, but I want the LLR work to finish before I do.

I rant 4 units for a while, without a reboot (I am down to 3 as I am not asking for new work). GPU is still suspended. Earlier today I was rebooting what I now reviewed in the logs every 5-20 minutes (more than I caught cause I was working).

Once the 2 units that will finish overnight I will put the reinstate the GPU and see what happens. To be honest, I had suspicions of the GPU originally.

Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 5:35 am Post subject:

It is the video card. Allowed it to run and crashed within 10 minutes. Now I need to set that up for replacement, also.

System is processing 4 LLR units currently and looks great. Oh well, I have to dig it out of it's hole to put on bench to replace parts. I'll wait until the challenge ends, now I have a final prognosis.

Interestingly the diagnosis I ran shows the video card had no issues, but I bet it doesn't put the stress on it that a Genfer unit does.

I always had issues with this box, needing to reboot it every approximately week, because it would go into an odd mode and start trashing work. In WuProp it always shows a high CPU rate and it grew each unit it did. Currently without the GPU running that is no longer happening. So it seems I always had a faulty GPU, but it just finally decided to go far enough off the deep end to allow me to get it replaced.

Gemjunkie · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:13 am Post subject:

Good news, of sorts. At least it's pinned down to something easy to swap out.
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branjo · Prince Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 746 Location: Slovakia

PB: have you tried to connect your monitor to Intel GPU and run some work on the "suspicious" one?

#ni-2

ETA: at least you can run some collatz on Intel GPU Wink

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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 11:44 am Post subject:

branjo · Prince Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 746 Location: Slovakia

Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:02 pm Post subject:

branjo · Prince Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Posts: 746 Location: Slovakia

Fair enough. But how can I now taunt PG? #Mad

ETA: got it. I will taunt my wingmen who will send their WU's late Twisted Evil

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checklist · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:16 pm Post subject:

PhastPhred · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:27 pm Post subject:

We'd just Shrub one hour LONGER, as if Daylight Savings didn't count - GMT remains the same...
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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:34 pm Post subject:

D'oh. Work uses GMT, so I was off there. I am glad that the projects use UTC. I knew that, because I remembered that I needed to start/end at a different time during the DST.

Thanks for the kick in the backside as a reminder.

Now where did I put that new stash of PGGBs? I think I need 1 or 6. #Beer

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Gemjunkie · Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:55 am Post subject: