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Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2016 3:11 pm Post subject: Platform Failures- Black screen followed by BIOS restore |
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I'm getting platform failures under heavy load. No failures if the platform is idle. The screen goes black, followed by a BIOS restore/recovery, so it's a pretty hard crash.
I removed the Radeon card, and it still crashes running only Nvidia
I removed the Nvidia card, and it still crashes running only Radeon
So it doesn't look like the video cards, or drivers, are the problem...
I use hwinfo64 to monitor/log platform sensors, and the temps are stable right up to the crash:
CPU 60c (AMD FX-8350)
Motherboard 50c (Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3)
Northbridge 46c
Radeon 78c (R9 270x)
Nvidia 75c (GTX 760)
CPU and both GPUs have been rethermaled within the past six months.
I also ran a Windows memory test, to confirm my Corsair memory was healthy.
I'm out of ideas. It's definitely load related, as it will idle for a day without failures, but detonates within a few hours under heavy load.
Any help would be much appreciated...
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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33 views and no ideas or suggestions?
Help me out here my fellow knights. ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) _________________
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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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lvanst wrote: | 33 views and no ideas or suggestions?
Help me out here my fellow knights. ![Rolling Eyes](images/smiles/icon_rolleyes.gif) |
OK make that 34 views and a no clue response.
If it were I ... I would backup everything and flash the BIOS.
It just seems like a MB issue and that might be a good place to start. |
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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I assume you already did the Vacuum Cleaner stuff, and have a clean CPU and Power Supply - Vent holes in the case, etc? - Sorry, I have nothing... _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys. I too was thinking mb or power supply. I'll check for a bios update. _________________
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Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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lvanst wrote: | Thanks guys. I too was thinking mb or power supply. I'll check for a bios update. |
Even if there is no "update" for the BIOS, it might have a tiny corruption that could be fixed by a BIOS flash.
But maybe I'm confusing flashing with streaking. Do you need clothes on for BIOS operations? ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:43 am Post subject: |
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Sounds to me the power supply has aged capacitors and max load isn't stable anymore ....
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, agree with start with getting BIOS right then slowly cranking it up. _________________ a monster can be excused for his behaviour . . . The problem is not how a monster could do it, but how a human being did it.
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Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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BIOS flashed and still failing.
Trying a new power supply next... _________________
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This stopped happening when I stopped running the Einstein project. It seems to have been CPU centric, as I took turns removing the nvidia and radeon cards to no avail. The platform has been failure free for two weeks now, whereas it had been failing multiple times per day... _________________
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Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Soooo...
We were right!
Gravitational waves from Einstien project were overloading PS capacitors and causing the BIOS to cause CPU errors when communicationg with the GPU's.
It was probably that newly discovered double pulsar that threw a whammy on the CPU. Very tricky, those gravitational waves... popping capicators, unflashing BIOS and throwing GPU's into interdimensional quanta.
If it's possibly related:
I get excessive 'hardware errors' from my U3 Bitminer whilst running the Einstien "Multi-Directed Continious Gravitational Wave Search" WU's and also long running Prime Grid WU's like the PSP (LLR), even when I limit the consecutive WU's to half of the cores.
If I give the CPU a rest for a day or reboot and put something different on the CPU like Astroids, then the Bitmain U3 Asics miner gets almost no errors and hums along just fine.
I think some of these programs write their applications to 'hold open' memory without actually using it.
Just an observation. It would be more coherent if I knew what I was talking about. ![](images/smiles/silly.gif) _________________
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Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:41 am Post subject: |
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Glad to hear you found the source of the problem - hope you've told the people at Einstien.
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