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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We passed Taiwan and will pass TeAm AnandTech any minute now. We should be able to fish-slap Norway again in a few days.
KWSN is currently in 17th place, but RAC is 5th.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I shall feed the "special food" to the hamsters who power my computer.
Even though I can't get the wife's Android to cooperate, I'll keep the Asteroids bouncing in my little desktop through months end. (Hamsters willing)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone using the app_info to run different applications on this? I notice they hand out kind of randomly and since BOINC cannot detect AVX you need a app_info to use it.

Currently one of my AVX boxes is running SSE2 and the other SSE3. I do not see a real speed difference (both machines are 3.4G. I suspect the AVX may have some speed increase, but how much?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How can you tell if a system supports AVX?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LanDroid wrote:
How can you tell if a system supports AVX?

Intel 2nd Gen and beyond processors support AVX correctly. There are some ATI that claim they have it, but does not work as expected for projects.

So if your I3/5/7 has 4 digits it supports AVX (2000, 3000, 4000).
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CPU-Z tells us if our CPU is sse2 or sse3 capable - Is there something I am missing here?
I don't see an AVX on CPU-Z nor GPU-Z Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AVX should show in the instruction set list of cpu-z if the cpu has it. gpu-z is only for video cards so you won't see avx listed there at all. Only the latest cpus support it
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pooh Bear, I pulled this from the asteroids forum. Trim out the parts you don't want for whatever shrubber you put it on. Forum posters report what looks like 10-15% decrease in time using avx over sse3 on the same box. Make sure you have the apps downloaded before setting this in motion.

Code:
<app_info>

<app>
<name>period_search</name>
<user_friendly_name>Asteroids</user_friendly_name>
</app>

<!-- SSE2 -->
<file_info>
<name>period_search_10210_windows_x86_64__sse2.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>period_search</app_name>
<version_num>1021</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>1.00</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.00</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>sse2</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>period_search_10210_windows_x86_64__sse2.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>


<!-- SSE3 -->
<file_info>
<name>period_search_10210_windows_x86_64__sse3.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>period_search</app_name>
<version_num>1021</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>1.00</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.00</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>sse3</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>period_search_10210_windows_x86_64__sse3.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>


<!-- AVX -->
<file_info>
<name>period_search_10210_windows_x86_64__avx.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>period_search</app_name>
<version_num>1021</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>1.00</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.00</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>avx</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>period_search_10210_windows_x86_64__avx.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>

<!-- CUDA -->
<file_info>
<name>period_search_10100_windows_x86_64__cuda55.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<file_info>
<name>cudart64_55.dll</name>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>period_search</app_name>
<version_num>1010</version_num>
<avg_ncpus>0.05</avg_ncpus>
<max_ncpus>1.00</max_ncpus>
<plan_class>cuda55</plan_class>
<file_ref>
<file_name>period_search_10100_windows_x86_64__cuda55.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
<file_ref>
<file_name>cudart64_55.dll</file_name>
<copy_file/>
</file_ref>
<coproc>
<type>CUDA</type>
<count>1.000000</count>
</coproc>
</app_version>

</app_info>

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I installed the AVX config and pulled down the AVX executable. It is saving me a few hundred seconds off a unit. Not a lot of additional time, but over time it will make some difference. Just the hassle of implementing it on the boxes was the worst part.

Plus I lost 4 units because of a mistake.

Oh well, c'est la vie. It's running that way for now.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have gotten a few avx'es on my Mac OS X, but IIRC there were not (much) faster than sse's. I think I have read on AAH forum, that avx'es are significantly faster only when shrubbed with Haswells Confused

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have both an Ivy (3rd Gen) and Haswell (4th Gen) Intel machines. Neither one had much of a speed up.
Ivy
SSE2 ran about 5500-6500
SSE3 non ran
AVX ran about 5200-5800

Haswell
SSE2 ran about 5500-5900
SSE3 ran about 5700-6200
AVX ran about 4800-5500

So the Haswell did better on both SSE2 and AVX, but not a lot.

These are small samplings because I just started doing this work since yesterday, but it's a good general idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
There is going to be another server upgrade on Monday 27.01.2014 starting at 07:30 UTC. RAID array and filesystem will have to be adjusted so it will take more time. Server will be offline approximately 3 days. I assume being online on Wednesday 29.01.2014 till 11:00 UTC. If there will be more delay I will inform about it on twitter.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great so how can I warn them of apporaching asteroids during those days?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like we need to finish up all WU's today prior to the shutdown.
KWSN passed Team Astronomy.Ru.Forum and could pass Team Russia if it weren't for this server upgrade.

'Stones:
The Knights Who Say Ni! 40,000,000

dow 8,500,000
John Galt 007 3,500,000
Gemjunkie[TeaM] 3,000,000
Pooh Bear 27 950,000
JumpinJohnny 800,000
Sir Mifun Fat in a Right Place 700,000
LanDroid 700,000
Sir Stooper 700,000
lvanst 600,000
branjo 450,000
Trusty Steed, Patsy 400,000
Yankton 400,000
Wabbit98 200,000
Housekeeper of Camelot 100,000
Plomos 100,000
AstroBenn99 90,000
David 70,000
Finesse 60,000
multijumper 60,000
shen-tzu 60,000
MagpieMafia 40,000
Don Ross 10,000
Colleen 10,000
Timo 9,000
doubi17 6,000
Janusz 500
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Project website is back online and it looks like work is allowed to report. No "new" work is being created currently that I can see, but resends are happening.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LanDroid wrote:
Looks like we need to finish up all WU's today prior to the shutdown.
KWSN passed Team Astronomy.Ru.Forum and could pass Team Russia if it weren't for this server upgrade.

'Stones:
The Knights Who Say Ni! 40,000,000

dow 8,500,000
John Galt 007 3,500,000
Gemjunkie[TeaM] 3,000,000
Pooh Bear 27 950,000
JumpinJohnny 800,000
Sir Mifun Fat in a Right Place 700,000
LanDroid 700,000
Sir Stooper 700,000
lvanst 600,000
branjo 450,000
Trusty Steed, Patsy 400,000
Yankton 400,000
>> [KWSN] PhastPhred 318,480 << Laughing
Wabbit98 200,000
Housekeeper of Camelot 100,000
Plomos 100,000
AstroBenn99 90,000
David 70,000
Finesse 60,000
multijumper 60,000
shen-tzu 60,000
MagpieMafia 40,000
Don Ross 10,000
Colleen 10,000
Timo 9,000
doubi17 6,000
Janusz 500


OK, I added a line... #ni-1
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like they are creating new work now!
Tasks ready to send 21,155
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any news why Asteroids is down?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From their twitter feed:

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Due to some problems with aplying certificates server will be offline till Monday morning. Unfortunatelly SSH access is cut off.

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