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Pooh Bear 27 Prince


Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1358 Location: Fond du Lac, WI
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 6:02 am Post subject: NCI (Non CPU Intensive) Projects (Free extra points?) |
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I learned a little about NCI projects recently. Currently I am running one of them, but I know there are others. I am opening up this to try and get a comprehensive list on them and what they do.
First off for those who do not know, and NCI runs at the same time other projects do and does not count against a CPU since it runs so small of a footprint it doesn't need a full CPU. So it doesn't take much away from your real crunching and you get points.
There are both BOINC and non-BOINC NCI projects. I currently only know of two that run correctly and one that does not (but is currently in hibernation).
BOINC:
WUProp - WUProp@home is a non-intensive project that uses Internet-connected computers to collect workunits properties of BOINC projects such as computation time, memory requirements, checkpointing interval or report limit. You can participate by downloading and running a free program on your computer.
I run WUProp and it runs very quietly even on my Android phone. I have not seen it interfere with anything.
OProject - The main idea of this project is the analysis of algorithms. ALX is the application - Artificial Intelligence, it never worked NCI correctly unless you used an anonymous platform. Currently in hibernation.
I had tried to run this but I never used an anonymous platform so it kept taking regular cycles away. They shut it down because it was a dummy program (kind of like Pirates). Unsure of a return with real data.
Non-BOINC
Dimes - DIMES is a distributed scientific research project, aimed to study the structure and topology of the Internet, with the help of a volunteer community.
I had run Dimes in the past, but not for over a year. Last project update on the home page is May 2012. So it seems to be fairly status quo. Their forums talk about a new 64 bit Beta program released in 2013.
What other NCI projects are out there? I have heard rumors of others and it would be nice to have a list. Has anyone run multiple NCI projects? Do they play nice together? Any other suggestions about them that could help in knowing how to run them. _________________ Watch the movie about me The 4-1-4s: The Original Teenage Hackers (It is only about 12 minutes long.)
My lucky numbers are 121*2^4553899-1 and 3756801695685*2^666669±1
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PhastPhred Prince


Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 6017 Location: Northwest AR (USA)
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Gemjunkie Prince


Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 3519 Location: Earth, lately
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Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2013 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I had Dimes running on all my shrubbers but over time it seems to succumb to JavaRE problems. Down to 2 now.
OProject seems to have finished their NCI tasks, I think they were just alpha test WUs. New ones I shrubbed use a full core.
You could include Pirates, not technically NCI as I recall, but you only get a few minutes work per hour when available. _________________
(older, before split CPID)
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LanDroid Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Posts: 4476 Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:02 am Post subject: |
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OK linked up to WUProp...
Also giving Dimes another shot with the new 64 bit client. Had to install 64 bit Java. (Makes me wonder, does DDM use 32 or 64 bit java?) Can't connect to register Dimes at the moment. Their main web page has a query error, can't find where to log in.
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Gemjunkie Prince


Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 3519 Location: Earth, lately
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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My Dimes clients have been unable to connect to the server for a week or so.
I thought Dimes used 32-bit Java and DDM used 64-bit Java. _________________
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Pooh Bear 27 Prince


Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1358 Location: Fond du Lac, WI
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Gemjunkie Prince


Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 3519 Location: Earth, lately
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know, but when Java updates caused DDM compute errors, it wasn't fixed until I re-installed the 64-bit Java.  _________________
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Pooh Bear 27 Prince


Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 1358 Location: Fond du Lac, WI
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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If I read Java's website, it's based on the Web Browser you have installed. So it may require 64 bit if it's as tied to the browser as it says. So there must be some hook in Java. Since my browser is 32 bit version of Firefox and Chrome, I have no need for the 64 bit. _________________ Watch the movie about me The 4-1-4s: The Original Teenage Hackers (It is only about 12 minutes long.)
My lucky numbers are 121*2^4553899-1 and 3756801695685*2^666669±1
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LanDroid Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Posts: 4476 Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.
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Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 5:02 am Post subject: |
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For stats junkies:
WU Prop
KWSN is in 21st place with 2,109,424 points
Dimes
KWSN is in 9th place for # WU's and 7th place for "ASes and AS Links".
FreeHal
KWSN is in 29th place with 25,033,107 points |
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LanDroid Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Posts: 4476 Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Interesting info from the Dimes map of active agents - the U.S. has over 150 active clients, and such far flung regions such as New Zealand with 11, Argentina with 3, Norway with 28, and Russia with 8 clients. However except for 2 in Tunisia, Africa has ZERO active agents? Do we know ANYONE in South Africa who could fire up Dimes and monitor traffic across the entire continent? India has only 1? We could also use help from Iceland, Mexico, Cuba, Venezuela, and others to round out the map...
http://www.netdimes.org/new/?q=node/52 |
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LanDroid Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Posts: 4476 Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | WUProp@Home Application updated
I made some changes to the application in order to implement a badge. The badge will be assigned based on the number of applications for which you have returned data and the number of hours run on these applications.
I will post more informations in a few days.
18 Jan 2013
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/ |
Scooooore!
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Gemjunkie Prince


Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 3519 Location: Earth, lately
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Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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That's the most inscrutable badge system I've seen to date.
http://wuprop.boinc-af.org/badges.php _________________
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LanDroid Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Posts: 4476 Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Wow, inscrutable indeed.... Now how do I update my badge photo below to see what I've got? I've forgotten that link.
Laughing that I thought this was news, but was posted 6 months ago. _________________ [img]http://stats.free-dc.org/cpidtagb.php?cpid=6533a276b3a1dde393be350eb3cfda70&theme=16&cols=5/.png[/img]
[img]http://stats.free-dc.org/badgesbanner.php?cpid=6533a276b3a1dde393be350eb3cfda70/.png[/img] |
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Plomos Prince

Joined: 26 Apr 2011 Posts: 859
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Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Here is your link sir droid
http://signature.statseb.fr/
If you want to see how many hours you have logged per project use the account login on the wuprop site and it will tell you on the right side of your account page all that data. It will also show if you have a badge _________________
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Gemjunkie Prince


Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 3519 Location: Earth, lately
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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The sig isn't in a format our forum can display using img /img, you have to save it to a photo hosting site and link to that. you'll need to update it manually.  _________________
(older, before split CPID)
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LanDroid Prince


Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Posts: 4476 Location: Cincinnati, OH U.S.
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:15 pm Post subject: |
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Testing. I think I updated it with an easy 27 step process. Don't see any WU Prop badges tho... Whut the hey - I have over 3K hours on Asteroids and nearly that many on Cosmo, but no steekink badges earned?
Oh I see now, you have to crunch 20 applications to earn the first star. WU Props is aware of only 17. Ha-Rumph!  _________________ [img]http://stats.free-dc.org/cpidtagb.php?cpid=6533a276b3a1dde393be350eb3cfda70&theme=16&cols=5/.png[/img]
[img]http://stats.free-dc.org/badgesbanner.php?cpid=6533a276b3a1dde393be350eb3cfda70/.png[/img] |
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Gemjunkie Prince


Joined: 03 Jul 2010 Posts: 3519 Location: Earth, lately
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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I have the lowest rank badge. These times don't look right, I've spent a lot more time on PrimeGrid than Convector.
I still have hrs pending on Seti? I can't even remember the last time I shrubbed Seti.
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JumpinJohnny Prince


Joined: 28 Mar 2013 Posts: 1247 Location: Western New Hamster
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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I just joined WU Prop... It will be many, many moons before I get a badge of any sort. They sent me a notice that said they don't recognize my GPU and won't be counting any work done by it (AMD-ATI Radeon 4800 series, double precision) but would maybe someday include it.
Badges ??? Phaw! I don't need no stinking badges !!!
But a few free points is nice, so I guess I'll let it run.  |
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stooper101 Prince


Joined: 16 May 2009 Posts: 1248 Location: Cheese Country
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Sir Gem - regarding the statesb.fr sig, try logging into the account over there and customizing your sig. It should produce a png image link that we can use in this forum. I'm using one right now.
As far as WuProp, you'll notice that they log each app separately. So for example, primegrid has data for each of the sub-projects. Although some sub-projects may have low hours recorded, others have a great many.
Also, Sir Landroid, WuProp only began this new badge system recently. So it has only logged hours on WUs done since the badge system has started. And that only on systems where a WuProp WU had been running. I'm finding that I am going back to projects I left dormant just to get my hours.
BTW - I'm closing in on my 3rd star!  _________________
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Gemjunkie Prince


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