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CPU PotM October '12 / Planning

 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 7:20 pm    Post subject: CPU PotM October '12 / Planning Reply with quote

Here's the preliminary list - deleted DDM and added Constellation, Climate Prediction, and YoYo. Any comments - isn't there a new candidate worth adding to the ballot? Skynet?

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Climate Prediction
Correlizer
Constellation
Cosmology
EDGeS V
Eon V
Leiden Classical
Malaria / three projects
MUON 1 V (Non-boinc)
Number Field Sieve
Primaboinca
Quantum Monte Carlo
RNA World
Rosetta
Sztaki Desktop Grid
World Community Grid
YoYo
Vacation / No CPU POTM
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please add Seti....

We could move up a spot with some effort.

5 L'Alliance Francophone 10115 973,360 1,495,300,426
6 The Knights Who Say Ni! 4922 873,144 1,236,683,141


(bold=RAC Italicized=Current credit)
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Skynet as a boinc project is known as POGS, or PS1 Optical Galaxy Survey.

the current avg runtime according to their server status page is 3.93 hrs.

They are still sorting out some checkpointing issues as per http://ec2-23-23-126-96.compute-1.amazonaws.com/pogs/forum_thread.php?id=1&sort_style=&start=20
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea boinc version of skynet (POGS) gonna be good. We are on #44 right now.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please consider subsetsum as well--we could bounce up a bunch of spots really easily.

If I calculated it, average WU time is 1 hour.

http://volunteer.cs.und.edu/subset_sum/

25 Palmetto Flats 2 1,329 218,177
26 Nordlichter 3 2,554 214,002
27 The Planetary Society 1 4,572 204,986
28 The Knights Who Say Ni! 9 1,088 203,346

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurf wrote:
Please add Seti....

We could move up a spot with some effort.

5 L'Alliance Francophone 10115 973,360 1,495,300,426
6 The Knights Who Say Ni! 4922 873,144 1,236,683,141

(bold=RAC Italicized=Current credit)


The French's RAC on this might be somewhat inflated as of the moment due to a current SETI "challenge"

http://boincstats.com/en/stats/challenge/team/chat/248

It doesn't seem all that challenging now, but that's another story. For the next 5 days or so, they've likely ramped up on it however...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://oproject.goldbach.pl/index.php
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subsetsum is a good one, only a handful of us Kniggets are shrubbing it at the moment so there is room to improve. Oproject looks nice too. They have shiny badges....... shiny..... shiny.... oh wait where was I? Oh ya, good project. their ALX units run in 10 minutes for me which should be even faster for most of you guys. Just pulled a GSCE WU from them and it is estimating 18.5 hrs to finish to hopefully it gives more than the 8 credits ALX units give.

Running a POGS unit as well. For now the checkpointing is sort of like yoyo in that after it finishes a segment of the work the stderr.txt reads something like

08:37:38 (1120): wrapper: running fit_sed (7 filters.dat observations.dat)

but such checkpoints do not show in Boinc. The progress bar does move though when you hit one of these. I started it yesterday, had to stop last night and started up again this morning and it had saved my progress so that is good
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only problem with oproject, and it's much the same with solar@home (though the latter is more beta like) is that last I've heard they don't have any Windows apps. More crunchers run Windows, then run Mac OS. Linux would require setting up in a VM, and then seperating out one's CPU cores to run 2 instances of BOINC at the same time (native OS and VM). It'd be doable, though more involved then if one was dealing with projects that have native Windows apps.... And as to dual booting, if one partitioned for it, it'd still leave out times the comp is in use for which one is running Windows software, etc...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only run windows and am running Oproject on my shrubber just fine. It seems to me they support all OS types if you look at their main page
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run Windows 7 with no problem on subsetsum
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All right! Lot's of new blood/shrubs to be trimmed!

Here's the revised list, will post it if we don't hear more shortly...

ABC
Climate Prediction
Correlizer
Constellation
Cosmology
EDGeS V
Eon V
Leiden Classical
Malaria / three projects
MUON 1 V (Non-boinc)
Number Field Sieve
OProject
Primaboinca
Quantum Monte Carlo
RNA World
Rosetta
SETI
Skynet/POGS
SubSetSum
Sztaki Desktop Grid
World Community Grid
YoYo
Vacation / No CPU POTM
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plomos wrote:
I only run windows and am running Oproject on my shrubber just fine. It seems to me they support all OS types if you look at their main page


Perhaps they added it then. For a time there was some talk of Mac only.... Which in a way does seem strange, but then again if they do want to limit possible crunchers. There has tended to be more PC owners then Mac owners, though don't tell them that, unless one works for the local utility and they want to station a ton of wind mills outside the door to generate electricity Surprised

Course technically one can load OS-X on a non-Mac branded PC, but that's a lil involved. Apple still wants to hook people into buying their rather pricey/trendy hardware #ni-1 But the way around involves a minor bit of hacking the thing, to get it to load, etc
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check QMC's site to see if there will be work the whole month. There's talk of letting the work run itself out at some point, for when they will move servers. But on bringing it up, there's talk of taking the project offline so they can clean everything up, before starting it at the new url, with the new WUs they'll be having available. Basically there going to be expanding into crunching more stuff...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The GSCE wu's from Oproject don't seem to have checkpointing, as i tested it after 6 hrs of runtime and they started over. Kind of a bummer. POGS did pay me 164 credits for one WU and Subset generally pays ~80 credits per wu so either of those seems fine by me
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plomos wrote:
The GSCE wu's from Oproject don't seem to have checkpointing, as i tested it after 6 hrs of runtime and they started over. Kind of a bummer. POGS did pay me 164 credits for one WU and Subset generally pays ~80 credits per wu so either of those seems fine by me


I'm getting 90 credits/WU on Subset with Pending building up quickly. I'm flying up the RAC chart
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plomos wrote:
The GSCE wu's from Oproject don't seem to have checkpointing, as i tested it after 6 hrs of runtime and they started over. Kind of a bummer. POGS did pay me 164 credits for one WU and Subset generally pays ~80 credits per wu so either of those seems fine by me

They claim GSCE checkpoints every 10 secs. Confused
http://oproject.goldbach.pl/apps_info.php

I like subsetsum. Cool
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scratch QMC, we'll add them back when the move is complete and stable. Good call Nuadormrac....

Is Eon stable enough for PotM? I see notes here and there 'bout lack of work?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2012 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As to eon this is their current server status

Results ready to send 0
Results in progress 2,168

not looking good there. @Blurf, ya my bad the wus for subset are more like 89.something each. really easy to gain nice large chunks of credit quickly #ni-1

Also the 10 second checkpointing for GSCE hahahahahahaha. Ran it for 6 hrs, 0 checkpoints. I call shenanigans !!
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