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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reportable primes will be any server other than the SGS or the PPSE. Mainly because the SGS and PPSE are filling in the missing holes.

In terms of what server will pay off more I always thought it was fairly even.

PRS and FPS would be reportable as well. For primes that is if you ever find one.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seem to be two new PSA projects. Find the info here: http://www.primegrid.com/forum_thread.php?id=3890&nowrap=true#45950

I did update the client to 5.0.2. It seems the work is for 64-bit client so I am a no go though I did update everything.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, let me better example the issue I see that different projects are paying better than others.

Last 24 hours I did (4 cores running 4 different projects on same machine):
121 - 4 units, approximately 71500 credits
GFN65535 - 12 units. approximately 21000 credits
Mega - 5 units, approximately 51000 credits
SR5 - 10 units, approximately 24000 credits

121 I may do approximately 3.5 units a day so that's actually around 62500 day. So currently that is paying the best.

I was wondering if anyone figured out what actually does pay best? I can do a GFN524288 in about 46 hours, so for 2 days I get approximately 67500 credits.

Seems 65535 and SR5 are really low, Mega, 121 and 524288 are pretty good. I would like to know how well others have noticed the other projects and where I could get the best bang for my buck. I might just set them all to 121 for now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it should be a combination of the size of the number. So the bigger the number you crunch the bigger the score. When we first started the scores were quite low since all the numbers were small.

Second it also depends how close to a prime it is, or if it is a prime. If it is a prime it is worth more.

You should also try the FPS and PRS servers as well to see how those work for you.

ESP if I remember had a good score rating per WU.

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Bumped into wabbit over on the PG forums re: the 2 new WWWW PSA projects. He said he missed me. Razz Wonders never cease.

Sorry I haven't been around much. My kids keep me quite busy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well that is new. Last time you didn't have kids.

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Get them a computer.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get them a dozen computers.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BORG them!! #ni-2
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Killerrabbit wrote:
Well that is new. Last time you didn't have kids.

Ni

Get them a computer.


Hmm...

Well, the oldest one of my current crop of kids (almost 4 years old) does bug me a LOT to play what he calls 'the tractor game'... Farming Simulator 2011... He is really smart, and can name at least what each type of equipment is (plow, seeder, combine, etc.) and in most cases the brand and/or model number. The boys (the younger one is a bit over 2 years old) are currently spending the week with my parents (they wanted to keep them for a week or so before my parents got too old -- dad is 87, mom is 86). Dad had to feed his cows, so they took the boys up to the farm, and when the older one first saw my dad's tractor he said 'Your tractor is dirty. It needs washing. Where is your pressure washer?'

Yep, he is really smart, and his little brother is picking up a lot of stuff too. But, while the older boy can run programs already (even to the point of switching out CDs/DVDs as required), the younger one isn't quite there... yet. And, as anyone that is truly a parent (sorry, but only one kid does not qualify you) can tell you, if you get one of them something, you need to get the others the same thing or there will be hell to pay. So, I am gonna have to hold off on getting them computers, for now, until they are both old enough.

The older one isn't even 4 yet, and already knows his letters, numbers, colors, and shapes. He sometimes scares me, and I was the same way. He is already teaching himself to read, and can count to at least thirty. I am working with him on addition and subtraction. And, he knows the names (and sometimes jobs) of various important people. 'Daddy thats President Obama!' or 'Mister Cain!' or 'German Chancellor Merkel!' when he sees their pictures. He is gonna be terribly bored in school, I fear, just like I was. And the younger one is picking up on a lot of stuff even younger than the older one did, because the older one is giving him lessons. For instance, the older one reads books to the younger one. And when I am doing housework, and the younger one says that he wants to watch TV, the older one will go turn it on. Does he turn it on to cartoons or some kiddie show? Nope. He goes and turns it on to the Fox Business channel... And the boys watch it. Half an hour or so later, the older one will come into the kitchen or laundry room where I am and tell me what is going on... Things like 'the dow is up' or 'gold is down', then give me a brief summary of a couple of stories.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He hee sounds like in a few years you will be able to have a Major Kong petition. Very Happy

I love smart kids because they are so interesting to chat with. If you where bored at school and your son is like you, then maybe as a suggestion you should consider looking for a specialist school which will play to those strengths and keep him interested.
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Soon they will be reading companies annual reports and telling you where to invest in.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already have my bronze PSA badge. At this rate (one quad core), I should have ruby by September or before. If I add in one of my I7's I could have it a lot quicker.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been running SGS the past couple days now and have gained up to 11,289 SGS credits and a total of 125,847 credits for active PRPNet credits. A grand grand total of 199,884 PrpNet credits when adding in the ancient PPSE port. So I have hit over 8,000 credits in PG and 7,000 PSA credits and counting

Bring on more SGS units! Maybe I will finally hit a prime. Congrats on your bronze hardware there Pooh
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I have over 3 million PSA credits and that translates into about 400K BOINC credit.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So last night I added another box to PSA. 2 of my boxes are doing PSA while the other two are doing the CPU/GPU PotM.

If I calculate how quickly I am gather credit and it holds true 18 PSA per 1 PrimeGrid credit I am already in Silver and well on my way to a Ruby in about 30 weeks. If I add other boxes to this I could potentially get it in just around the beginning of May? On my Quad I am able to do over 1M a week. I already have over 4M in just around 3 weeks on the 1 box.
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Heck you might be on your way to finding a rare record prime as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After a couple of days of playing, 121 seems to be one of the better pay projects. I had calculated out a few things and I can get over 800K on 121 in a day with 12 processors whereas Mega I'd get about 725K and ESP I'd get 675K, etc. So there are advantage projects it seems.

So if I get 800K a day and I am over 7M now it will take me just under 3 months to get to 72M which hopefully will give me ruby. I'll probably take it over 80M to be sure.
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Well you might also find a rare large prime which is also important.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I asked this question a couple of days ago over at the forums and no one seems to answer.

LLR tasks of the same type, some go through "hits" and some go through "iterations". The ones that do iterations seem to go through an extra step.

Can someone explain why the two different style computations and why it chooses which one?


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my answer finally.

Simply:
Basic Algorithms :

- The base two numbers (with k<2^n) are the fastest to test :
k*2^n+1 numbers are tested using the Proth algorithm.
k*2^n-1 numbers are tested using the Lucas-Lehmer-Riesel algorithm.
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