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PhiltheNelson · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:16 am Post subject: What a Shrubery time I am having

Ni,

I am having a problem with my stats/ I have not been active for some time, I used to run Seti before Boinc came along thenstatrted to get involved until health matters put the brakes on. Since reestablising contact I have taken on extra projects but a few problems are starting to raise their heads.

First- the project that I really want to get to grips with is the LHC. Does anyone know when tat will be up and running??? Every time I visit the site it is down. I want to set up ready for when things start.

Second my stats on the Boinc page on my Mac, does not tally with the stats shown on the web sites for the individual projects. e.g. Einstein@Home.

Can any one of you fabulous Tin clad warriors be of assistance.

May your Shrubbery Flourish,

Sir Plip of the Plop.

PS David Bowie rules.... (Moi Sad? Never)
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Sir Papa Smurph · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:27 am Post subject:

I don't know anything about LHC, ( I am not sure that anyone does) but, as far as your stats go make sure you have at least one machine running all of your projects so that your cross project id number is correct.

#ni-1

also make sure that all of your screen names are Exactly the same.
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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:13 am Post subject:

LHC was sending work, even though their site is down. That work is very sporadic.

Sir Papa Smurph eluded to putting all projects on one machine. Although this is the easiest, it is not the necessary way. My recommendation is have a common project on all machines, so the CPIDs can sync up. As long as there is some commonality amongst your projects they will eventually sync.

Example 5 (A-E) machines and 5 projects (1-5).
A runs 1,2
B runs 2,3,5
C runs 3,4
D runs 1,5
E runs 5

This will allow all to sync, as you have a commonality between all the machines. It may take a few days, the other idea will do it quicker.

Welcome back to crunching, and enjoy the ride. Remember if you do any Beta projects, please stay active on their boards as they need feedback and sometimes need you to follow some changes going on.

Good luck!
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PhiltheNelson · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: Makes sense

That actually makes sense to me and I will sorted. At the mo I have one Laptop PC that is getting oldrunning only Seti. I have my Mac Mini in the sitting room running 6 projects. The other two machines in the back room will both be sorted for the same projects when I get the chance to set up.

Ta for the info,

Sir Plppster.
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Pooh Bear 27 · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject:

Another thing I have decided is to take one project and consider it the only place to make most changes. If you want to change any of the global preferences only choose that one to make the change and allow it to migrate to the rest. It keeps the projects from confusing themselves.
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Sir Furry Mark · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:38 pm Post subject:

JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

What you should do is have one machine with an account on every project that you do work for. It doesn't need to be actively doing work, it just needs to exist. Then, if for whatever reason, CPID gets mixed up, just fire up the offending project(s) on the primary machine (I think you don't even need to do work, so setting it to not download work but be an active project might be enough) and it will synch them up again.

It's only a problem you should ever have when you start a project for the first time on a system that hasn't already synched to your CPIDs. That's why I start every project on my primary system first, which gets the CPID synch'd right away with that project account, and then add the machine that will actually be doing that project long term.
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Killerrabbit · Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 7:41 pm Post subject:

I only have one machine so I make up for it with running every project, just not at all the same time.

Ni
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PhiltheNelson

I am on the long term sick at the mo and when I can manage it I play with my puters (Yes Plural) But there is a reason for this.
When we moved (Couldn't manage the stairs any more so bought a Bungalow and made some money of the sale) I had an old laptop (Windows XP) and I mean old. However I wanted a machine for the sitting room to get rid of all the extra boxes connected to the TV. I bought a Mac Mini at what I thought was a very good price. Connected to the big TV it does the Surround sound bit and plays all my music and DVD's. I also got given a Gyration Wireless keyboard and Gyroscopic mouse. A Tech heads delight. Much easier for a cripple such as MOI to use. I am now wondering why I ever gave MONEY to Mr Gates.... Bit silly really. Made lots of space for the more important boxes to be connected, like my Wii and XBox.

However, in a past life I used to build PC's and things for peeps and have passed the skill onto my son. A Friend of his had a NON Working PC. Actually nothing wrong except over clocked and under cooled. I now have a top of the range PC with a bought, flat screen monitor in an old case. Had to buy a decent DVD drive for about £25, but what the hell. Everything else is second hand. (Even the 4G of memory. A good PC for about £130 all in.

But then I got offered an iMac for less then half price. Brand new (well 3 months old) from a local Playhouse that is closing for a full Refit that could last 3 years. I got contacts I got offered.

I have a desk in the small bedroom with a decent PC and an iMac. The best of both worlds. I also have a networked 3 in 1 HP Printer. If I could only get the the laptop replaced....

My 50th is coming up and a little birdy has told me about a MacBook Pro looking for an owner. I can feel the drool now....

Question. Am I being a very greedy person, maybe just crashing through the Mid life crisis barrier?

BTW I am not a total bastard. Over the past 4 years or so I have given away (Well my son and I) about 8 Windows machines that have been replaced by their owners, when all that was required was a quick tidy up and cleaning out of the crap that the Internet threw at these machines. We are the ones called in to help when things go wrong, or the 'new fangled wireless internet' isn't working. We have never asked for any payments when we have done this. Hey! Maybe in future I should preload BOINC onto these machines, as well as Firefox and the others that don't owe anything to Mr. Gates and Co.

Any way, I am orf to take my Hormone supplements and Vital Amine tablets.

Have a Shrubbery time,

Sir Philop of Newcastle on the Tyne (It's all mine...)
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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Don't forget that you owe Mr. Gates for the very existence of those Macs. Without the purchase of those non-voting options (to avoid a conflict in interest) to give Apple some much needed income at the time, there would be only Microsoft today.

I expect Intel is going to have to do something similar for AMD soon, at the rate things are going.
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mohrorless · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:37 am Post subject:

PhiltheNelson · Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:05 am Post subject: Mr Gates

I follow the arguement, I just find it really upsetting to see the man wih the power (William) doing the sillies, like........... VISTA!!!

What the hell is that all about. Looks almost as good as my Mac, but takes a genuine maniac to say anything good about the fact that you need something so top end to make i work reasonably well. It is a pain t load in and set up. Newbies are throwing their hands up in droves.

My son is making money off it as it is so difficult to make work that peeps are asking the techie to help out.

My next door neighbour traded the Vista nightmare he had for an iMac. About the same price as it happened.. The difference was I took a half day to help him set the PC up and was called back on a regular basis.. However he did the mac himself ans was very glad to brg about how simple it all was.. I have 2 PC running windows. Reasonable bits of kit, but thank Dog no Vista.. I also have 2 Mac machines running Tiger. I know which ones I will be using the most in future and also which ones I will be upgrading.

The Holy Handgrenade should be used at any place that produces any more 'Vista' nightmares.

So there,

Na na nee na na!

Oh! and Ni of course.

Plipploppy the Pain ful one...
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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

As for Vista, it depends on your goal. After the initial (and very long) driver debacle, it's now a regular bastion of supported-devices-happiness compared to it's predecessors. I happen to deal with them all day long, as I'm currently employed by the Windows Core group as a lab support engineer lol. It took me awhile to warm up to it, but these days I approach the unholy 2k3 and XP systems I have to support with much wariness. The Vista and LHS (2k8) system is much better for a corporate/datacenter environment.

As for buying a Mac. Ha. Haha. HahaHAha... HAHAHAHA.
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