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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

I'll be curious to see how the Q6700 does and what it does to the Q6600s pricing. My next system is either going to be a Q6600 (or 6700) or a QX6700, depending mostly on the finances. The Q6600 system would be setup for mild overclocking, because the Q6600 die isn't nearly as happy with it as the QX6700s. That means all the related parts are cheaper, leading to a system build price around $1,800. The QX6700 system, however, would be setup for full bore overclock (aiming for 3.7-4 GHz), and as such all the underlying components are more robust, leading to a build price in the $2,800 range.

As for Proteins, I don't know. I only got 152 credit yesterday, from 2 cores running 100%. By comparison I got 691 in Einstein for a single Core 2 core, 656 in QMC for a single Core 2 core, 438 Rosetta for a single Core 2 core, 344 WCG for a single Core 2 core, and 303 Spinhenge from the XP 3k+, (as well as 401 Malaria from lots of various small machines). Maybe it's all wrapped up in pending.

Either way, I've shuffled Proteins off to a Sempron 3k+ and picked SETI back up on my Core 2. Unfortunately, server issues are causing all sorts of problems still, so it took a long time to get work and then it was only able to get about 10 hours worth. It's ok, in the next 48 hours I'll start disallowing new work for all projects across the entire farm in anticipation of SIMAP work. That'll give SETI another week to recover before I come back to it hehe.
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Al Dente · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject:

Well, I've tried, but I just can't sit and watch my hard-won positions in the other projects get decimated, so...

Sir Brian - I concede; Docking is all yours. Crying or Very sad

That was fun while it lasted, and I was rather impressed with how hard "The Dentery" can shrub when pushed (I got up to 10th fastest cruncher in the UK, 3rd in KWSN).

Now, priorities. Spinhenge first I think, as HoC is only a day behind me.

Normal service will be resumed shortly Twisted Evil

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to one and all. Laughing

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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject:

KWSN - Sir Brian C....... · Posted: Tue May 29, 2007 5:34 pm Post subject:

Just to rub Al Dente's face in the dirt...

I've just got to 100k in Docking@home.....

http://docking.utep.edu/view_profile.php?userid=168

Ni!

BTW, Iknow your really lloking for a quad core biut have you seen this pricing....

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?bb-c26321&P=1

just add a HDD for £30, and your off and running....

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Al Dente · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:36 am Post subject:

Thanks, I hadn't seen that one, but a 5600x2, AMD 690G m/b and 1GB of PC5300 RAM is about ¾ that price, with 15-20% better RAC.

I still think that AMD offers more shrubs/£, but a quad packs considerably more crunch into one box, and space/heat is going to my limiting factor.

On the subject of value, I'm still investigating the E5320. At about £140 each, a dual-quad core Xeon is still a distinct possibility, but the m/b's are comparatively pricey. But that combo should be equivalent to about 4 E6320's.

Decisions, decisions. (Sorry JerWA #evil

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Al Dente · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 12:57 am Post subject:

I've just had my morningly (!!??) look through the projects and noticed that I'd managed to cut your lead from 24K to under 8k in the last 5 days.

Isn't life just full of mights, maybes and could-have-beens?
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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Who's lead in what? Must be talking about Docking hehe.

Well, my HDD is dying on one of my Core 2s. Thankfully it's able to crunch, just not much else. I've got all the projects set to not allow new work, but if they run dry before SIMAP fires up I'll have no choice but to let them download more work first. Ah well. New HDD should be here today or tomorrow. I also added some fans and dropped CPU temps from stupid high down to just high. Blah at Dells cooling solution.

When I get back into a real job (I'm now on my last semester, so hopefully soon) I'll start looking for a new place to live. Someplace that I can fit a server rack.

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Al Dente · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 4:43 am Post subject:

Yes, that was aimed at Sir (Cur?) Brian.

Ah!, college days; back when a personal computer was a log-in to the University's main-frame.

Don't I just wish I had a (really) spare bedroom/redundant space to call my own/PC room! Luckily, I'm currently living alone, so I've no fear of threats from "'She Who Must Be Obeyed" (she moaned mightily at one PC!).
I spent last winter with 6 to 9 PC's in my Sitting room and never needed to turn the heating on! I've now moved 8 shrubbers into my bedroom (I had to build a desk for them - have you ever tried to find an off-the-shelf unit able to hold 8 PC's, 2 monitors et al in a 1m x ½m space?), so whether I'll be able to sleep this summer is open to question. I should be able to build up my Sitting room stock sufficiently by next winter to live entirely without any other form of heating (I may even be able to cook on them Laughing

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mohrorless · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 5:11 am Post subject:

As long as you have a plan...
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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 7:58 am Post subject:

mohrorless · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 8:24 am Post subject:

Yes, my wife is complaining about the electric bill too. Now I am not shrubbing quite as much as before. Crying or Very sad

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JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Heh, that's awesome. I've just the Core 2 E6400 and XP 3K+ in my one room apartment. My g/f uses the XP, and it's so tiny in here she sleeps right next to it (thankfully she likes white noise when she sleeps, and has no complaints about it's fans hehe). I just put a window A/C unit in last night, and I'm still tweaking that, but it should help hold down my peak temps during the day. It was 80F (26C) in here yesterday, and due to be 5 degrees hotter (85F / 29C) today (hence the quick move to add A/C).

As for a desk to hold all that, I had a custom made "desk" in Texas that had an 8' x 4' surface on top. Custom built to go from wall to wall right under the window with the A/C unit in it hehe. I'm using two desks from Ikea right now, and definitely have room to expand when the time comes. I was debating using "mini ATX" systems, but I've really always wanted a rack hehe.
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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 9:50 am Post subject:

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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 10:06 am Post subject:

JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Tweaking the A/C as in working out set temp that works best, and things like when to use the window fans to pull cold air in before the day gets hot. Like right now I have a window fan going to take advantage of how cold out it is this morning. Have to see how long I can do that until it gets hot out, and then we see what the A/C can do.
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KWSN - Sir Brian C....... · Posted: Wed May 30, 2007 1:55 pm Post subject:

Lloyd M. · Prince Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 521

JerWA · Prince Joined: 01 Jan 2007 Posts: 1497 Location: WA, USA

Loud fans suck. If it's going to be loud it better be moving an outrageous amount of air. There are 120mm fans rated for like 185 cfm if you want loud. Frozencpu has a special deal with an industrial fan maker if you're looking for less loud. It's 170mm x 150mm and moves 165 cfm at about half the noise of that 120mm @ 185 cfm.

The A/C was a bust. It wasn't nearly enough BTUs for this room (and our bad insulation, 1920s windows, etc). We took it back and got a 10,000 BTU unit hehe. w00 for overkill. The problem is that the 10,000 BTU unit pulls more power than we can provide (I think), but it's built in under-voltage circuit (to protect it during brownouts) is keeping it from blowing the circuit. Rather, it's just not running 100%. With some fiddling, I have managed to get it to cool the room down during the peak temperatures, so it does work. The plan is to use window fans to pull cold air from outside as long as it's below 70F (which it is pretty much every morning), and then flip to A/C to keep it at 70F during the worst of the day, and then go back to window fans at night.

On another subject, SIMAP is a bust this month. Only 33,000 new sequences, which equates to like 5 minutes of work for the number of people waiting for it. I got work units on one machine, and by the time I activated the project on another machine the project was "out of work". Ouch! The race with Al will have to go on next time, unless of course he managed to load up on work this time in which case I'm toast.
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Lloyd M. · Prince Joined: 02 Mar 2007 Posts: 521